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OK Now I see your point. Although, a lot of people from that generation did not consider remarriage an option. You are a lot closer to the actual situation than I am so it's time for me to quit yappin'. :)

David Garibaldi-------Tower Of Power

Nah. Not really all that wierd, Mr. B. It's a common practice for people to purchase 2 side by side plots and plan on being interred together. Now, when I was your age, the mere THOUGHT of purchasing a plot seemed *multi wierd*, regardless of who would be "next door" for eternity. JJ---"donations appreciated" Kinda reminds me of the old joke: "Why do they put fences around cemetaries?" "Because people are just dying to get in."

F-A-T-H-E-R A-N-D S-O-N-----------C-A-T S-T-E-V-E-N-S

AC silly-bus page 17, item # 1 Devils know the scriptures. Matthew 4:6; Mark 1:24; Matthew 8:29. ----------------------------------- AC silly-bus page 17, item #7 Devils do speak at times. Mark 5:9. Ergo-- It was, indeed, taught in formal setting, thus negating the question of whether or not it is urban legand that these things were taught.

Lorna I have not read the book so my response is based only on your post. I do not see in this section that you quoted, where Eagle implies that Dr. Wierwille ever SAID(or wrote) that a christian could be born of the seed of the devil. I also do not see where he claimed Dr. Wierwille SAID( or wrote) people could be cast into the lake of fire. What am I missing here? Did I misinterpret your post?

Honest to God! I don't make this stuff up! The Men's coordinator in Fellowlaborers( Ron A.) actually told us once during a FL meeting(50 people present), that the physical need to sleep could be overriden by speaking in tongues. We all fought like troopers not to break out in laughter because we were thoroughly exhausted at that point. The very next morning, 50 people sat cross-legged on a cold basement floor at 5:30 AM waiting in total silence for said wiseman to make an appearance. He never did show. He was too busy sawing logs. Afterwards, we all got our butts chewed for not starting without him. (I think it was WG who posted on this incident a while back.) You know you were in TWI if you can look back at that and laugh at yourself.

Santana-----Soul Sacrifice--1969

I was sitting on a hillside in a park where lots-o-hippies liked to congregate. I was playing my guitar and singing for all who cared to listen. (In other words, I was pretty much alone.) A local twig of about 5 or 6 approached me and became my audience. They complimented my music and then the "love bombing" began. One of the young ladies took it upon herself to undershepherd me. Within about a week or two I was participating in believer's meetings. A couple weeks after that first meeting, I was sitting in the PFAL class. The rest is somewhat of a surrealistic blur.

Silly story---Don't know if it's true. I heard that when BNL was still playing the college bars, they would travel with another band called *Free Beer*. They would put posters on the telephone poles to announce upcoming shows, as many bands do. The posters would read: "Tonite only!! Free Beer And Bare Naked Ladies" Don't know how true but still a good story.

Nonsense! If this were so, the swallows would return to Capistrano every year and fish would swim upstream to spawn.

Ha! Shows how much you know! Their acceleration rate was slowed by bouncing off a series of backward, upside down mirrors. Care for a "jelly-baby"?

Johniam Don't take this the wrong way. The logic in your post almost makes it sound like you are defending TWI's right to be considered dangerous. Personally, I believe they were and are dangerous. That has nothing to do directly with their membership, particpant statistics. A cult of, let's say 10 followers, has just as much chance of inflicting damage on its members as a cult with 10,000 followers. Deprogrammers were hired by people who had a concern for their loved ones well- being and felt they were being led astray. Again, this has nothing to do with membership statistics. Many of these deprogramming operations, by the way, were really set up as an opportunity to financially capitalize on a demand in the marketplace. (ie: to make money) Why did they list them as being in the top 3 or 4 most dangerous? I don't know. I'm not doubting you saw that in print but I would be curious to see what criteria was used to define "dangerous". To sum it up: "Dangerous" does not necessarily equal "significant" in the global scheme of things. After talking to people who were in other cults, I would have to agree that TWI was but a mere speck on the landscape of Christianity.( And that's GOOD news for the people TWI never reached.)

Hmmmm. The "deadhead" comment brought to mind an incident. A couple of years ago, one of our salesmen came into the office during his off hours wearing shorts. ( Not allowed while on the clock) Right there, for all the world to see, on one of his calves was that smiling bear with the tamborine that instantly betrayed a secret past he may have been better off not advertizing to his colleagues. Yep. He'd been a "deadhead". That's an image that doesn't mix too well with our customer base. Good thing he hasn't run into any of them at the grocery store while he is casually dressed.

Hmmm. I think T-Bone Walker had it right when he said " Have fun while you can------------Fate's an awful thing." ---------(The T-Bone Shuffle)-------------------

:eusa_clap: Kudos Now, what was that somg? Oh, yeah------------Up in the air, Jr. Birdman, up in the air flying high------------------- What a thrill!

If I can do it, there's hope for us all. Here's how my son showed me how to do it: 1. Go to youtube and find what you want to post. 2. Click on it to get it playing.(it doesn't matter if it finishes before you are done.) 3.Line up with the window that says "embed" 4.Right click----The window will highlight. 5. While still there, left click.------------An options menu will appear.--------click on "copy". 6. Click on "minimize"---That's the little "minus sign" box in the upper right of your screen. 7. Now go to GSC and log on and click the reply box. 8. Type in your text and hit "enter" to drop down a line. 9. Left click again to get an option box and click on "paste" 10. Now use the curser(arrow) to move down to where it says "yada, yada, "OFF" 11. Click to change that to "raw line break" "ON" and then "submit" If that's wrong, somebody bail me out, please! Hey!! No snickering in the back row!

Come,come,now. Was not the Titanic viewed as being a vessel greater than any e'er to precede her ? Did not the crew beam with pride to serve her with devotion? Did not her accoutrements entice as the sirens of folk lore? Surely, you are not suggesting this great maiden of the seas might bear some analogous resemblence to wooden spoked wagons that transported snake oil peddlers in olden days! Nay! Say 'tis not so, I pray thee.

Nope Never did. No particular spiritual reason. It just never made logical sense to me when factoring in the continuing expansion of the world's populaion. Of course, millions of people on the other side of the Earth feel quite differently than I do. Note: In my thinking, at least, "after life" and "reincarnation" are two different things.

Actually, I think the "hearing 3x" thing came from a K.C. Pillai teaching on an Eastern custom called "constrainment". As far as I can remember, here's how it works: Non constrinment version: "Would you like a glass of water?" "yes, thank you."/ or "No, thank you." Constrainment version: "Would you like a glass of water?"---1st time "No, thank you." "Are you sure?"---2nd time "No, thanks." "It's nice and cold."----3rd time "No, thank you."----Your intended response. ---------OR-------------- "Yes, thank you."-----Your intended response. Sheesh!----You know you were in a cult when you remember that stuff 30+ years after hearing it!

For me, it's not a matter of right or wrong, though some religions do consider it taboo. (That is part of why it is such a serious issue for a holocaust survivor to have to live with a concentration camp tatoo.) No, for me it is more a matter of taste. I am from the old school. I don't like to see tattoos on women. I don't think it is wrong(imo), I just don't think they look attractive. My niece, who is a very attractive young lady, has a very tasteful and artistic one between her shoulder blades. It was very obvious when she wore a backless?(don't know much about dresses) wedding gown. I thought it looked tasteful but still somehow distracting. I don't much care for tattoos on women. That's just my opinion. But what do I know? I'm just an old fart.

Well, Mr miller, you've gone and done it now. You've invented yet another game. So far, name that tune has been played by posting a snippet of the lyrics. This is more like the pictionary games. I kinda like it. I can't post pictures yet but I think it is a pretty cool twist for name that tune. Now-----What to call it----"Pictionuney"? I think not. :)

Close enough for me. Friday on my mind-----------Easybeats I put the youtube on the *Music* thread yesterday if anyone would like to hear it------(post # 699)

James Gang----Walk Away

Pond I think I understand what you are getting at regarding talking to people about the past. For me, the hardest ones to talk to about any of this are family and in-laws who were never involved. I sometimes feel like , somewhere, in the back of their minds, they're waiting for a chance to say, "I told you so!" Of course, they never do but it's still kind of embarassing in a peculiar way. NY? I don't know a whole lot about Scientology. From what I have heard, they are also big on a version of the "Law" of believing. You've stirred my interest in how Scientology saved your life. Can you elaborate in the "My Story" thread?