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Ya know, Oldies, even back in"the good old days" of the early 1970s, people were told that now that they had "The Truth" there was no going back. The adversary would make their life worse than it was before they heard The Word. Anybody else share that memory? So, yeah, they were pleased----------Pleased to stay someplace where the adversary couldn't squash them or their families like little bugs on the sidewalk. Or, as the expression evolved over the years, pleased they would not become grease spots by midnight. If you truly don't remember any of that stuff, I envy you. You must have had a very exceptional fellowship. So here's the thing in a nut shell. Even though you could physically walk away if you chose to, most were indoctrinated to believe that terrible things would happen to them and their loved ones if they did so. Bear in mind that there is a distinct difference between hearing this in a Sunday Night Service and being indoctrinated in progressive increments. Man, I've gone way off topic here. Hmmm? I wonder how that happened. <_< edited for spelling.

My younger brother was in the summer program. I think he was only about 15 at the time. I don't think you could do that sort of thing today with all the laws that would factor in. He did experience a lot of growth as a young man on the cusp of adulthood, though. Later, he too went through the Fellowlaborer program and graduated. He doesn't post here because he doesn't have easy access to a computer. WG-- Do you remember how MANY rules and regulations of table etiquette we had to follow at every meal? You could never just sit down and eat a meal like a normal bunch of people. To this day, if I am at a family gathering, I find myself waiting for the hostess to "start" the meal. I guess that's not all bad but it draws some strange looks at times. That's a hard habit to break. And did we really have to sing "Roll Away" after EVERY evening meal? <_<

I did not know him personally though I talked to him many times at shows. He was very much "into" The Jesus Movement. If you can find lyrics for the early Glass Harp albums, you will get an idea of what he believed. Two of the major stumbling blocks that put him at odds with The Way were: 1. The Trinity( or as he put it, "denying the Deity of Christ.") 2. The Gathering Together(which they referred to as The Rapture.) I always liked this line in one of his songs: "Brother Thomas will be there, without a doubt." I honestly don't recall all the doctrinal differences between the two but there was enough difference that it turned him off. I honestly think we saw him as some kind of trophy. "Gosh, if we could get this guy to come over to our camp, wouldn't that be great?" It wasn't about him, it was about us. :( You can hear a lot of classical influence in his playing and it's really crisp and clean. Did you notice in any of his youtubes how he uses that "violin effect" utilizing his finger on the volume knob? And don't forget, he was only about 20 years old in those Glass Harp clips. Favorite Glass Harp tune: "Can You See Me, Brother?" Can you see me, brother? Walkin' down that lonesome road. Can you see me, brother? Help me find the way to go.

Is WOK--- Word over Kansas? Ohio had a summer WOW type program, also. I think it was called Minutemen(could be wrong).

Phil Keaggy-----Yep!!! He worked out of Northeast Ohio. Back in "the day"we used to go see him play and then hound him to take piffle. errrrr--- I mean witness to him. <_< We were a loving sort of fan base, weren't we. Fine, fine, fine guitarist, indeed.

Well---------------- We're up to 5 now.(plus 1 bystander) Hey John!! Quite an interesting male to female ratio represented in that picture.

I'm not sure I'm understanding the nature of this thread correctly but here goes. I used to get quite "skiddish" when non-TWI people would bring up ghosts or ESP or any of the other things that The Way associated with devil spirits. "Haunted houses" and "talking to the dead" were subjects I had to bite my tongue on. Hey! I read "are the dead alive n*w" so that makes me an expert, right? How can you be a part of a group discussion of something like homosexuality with a bunch of people who have no idea what TWI taught and not feel at least a little skiddish? Even worse. How do you work in the same office with someone who is openly gay and also happens to be an otherwise well adjusted and perfectly normal human being without feeling skiddish trying to reconcile reality with TWI teachings? If nothing else, you find yourself thinking they will view you as a nut case for ever falling for this stuff. Since coming to The Cafe, I find it a lot easier to let this stuff slide past me without FEELING like I have to "set them all straight". Did I misunderstand the topic? My apologies if I did.

Hiya, Breeze. I'm sure we must know each other.(I was FL4---blue name tag--- dontcha know?) I was just thinkin' recently that there are probably only a couple hundred of us who went through FLO.(We're kind of a rare species.) That's like a drop in the bucket compared to how many went through the corps. And yet, here we are, 4 of us plus a non posting grad spouse. Must have had some kind of impact, dontcha think? I agree with you that we all experienced a great deal of personal growth. Some of those experiences were pretty hairy but time has a way of smoothing out the rough edges. Knowing what I know now, I would not do it again. That has nothing to do with the individuals in the program. There were some really terrific people huddled cross-legged on the basement floor every morning at 5:30 for morning fellowship. It has a LOT to do with what I now know about TWI, the organization. What was the wackiest project you had to work on? I think mine was the time we had an "emergency" work detail to destroy the mimeograph plates for The Grapevine so "the adversary" couldn't use our mailing list against us. That was during the time when all the conspiracy theories were running rampant. Anyhoo---Just thought I would pop in and say PS---PM me if you feel like it.

Hey! You've Got To Hide Your Love Away-------Lads from Liverpool You tell lies thinking I can't see. You can't cry 'cause you're laughing at me.

OK I just checked my Fellowlaborers name tags. Why do I keep them? Dunno. Pretty handy for scraping price tag gunk off of glass, though. My first year in the program, the name tags were blue with white engraving. My name and FL year are stick-on label tape.(Blue tape with white letters) The adversary must have infiltrated the program. Blue is so----well, you know---BLUE! My graduating year was a white tag that had the logo du jour at the top. Again, my name and state were done with label tape.(green with white letters) HMMMM! Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe Der Vey was a front for a name tag business scam?

I subscribe to XM.(Have for 2 or 3 years.) They have "decades" channels that feature music from the various decades. Channel 4=40's/Channel 5=50's/Channel 6=60's,etc.,etc. If you don't want to invest in a tuner, you can subscribe to it as a stand-alone and stream it on your computer. That's what we do in our office area. I have a separate tuner in the shop area. They will even let you take a free trial run to see if you like it. I hate to sound like an advertisement but if you enjoy music from a particular era or genre, this might be for you. Downside: The on-line stream is slightly out of sync with the regular(tuner) broadcast so you can't combine them to produce a surround sound.

Is this it?

Slim Harpo---Baby, Scratch My Back

Is that anything like a Creamcicle? OOPS! I may have just crossed the line. You know, the one that seperates good from evil?

Wow! Must be LONG after my time. They might have done better showing the scene from Disney's "Fantasia". At least it had good music. Oh, wait. I just remembered; Disney was a "seed boy".

I never knew about GSC until about a year ago. Therefore, since I hadn't seen it, it didn't really exist. Thanks, Dot. It must be awful to not be able to admit to one's self they have been hoodwinked. Imagine this at an AA meeting: " Hi, I'm Joe Schmoe. I'm not REALLY an alcoholic." Riiiight!!

Baby Elephant Walk-----Henry Mancini

If they're anything like coyotes( in terms of behavior), they could be in your backyard right now and you wouldn't know it. Beats the heck out of me how those critters are able to vanish into thin air.(coyotes, that is.)

HAHA! Didn't even notice when I read the original post. Something about "the context", dontcha know?

Dang It! I want in on this, too. I could be a maroon if I put my mind to it!

I don't think God EVER tires of hearing his kids express their concerns. What kind of *father* would he be if he did?

You know you have gotten old when: In the middle of the night, your wife creeps into the living room and catches you watching scrambled broadcasts of-------------------------------The Fishing Channel! HAHA!---You thought I was going to say --------The Golf Channel-------- didn't Ya? Cracker Barrel: Midwest restaurant chain that features home style cooking and a rustic ambiance.

For me, the big picture is not about the fact THAT he plagiarized. That's a foregone conclusion. What bothers me the most is WHY he did what he did. No, I don't know what thoughts ran through his mind but surely he must have had ulterior motives that involved satisfying his own personal agendas. So often we see on the news where a pedophile will get a job teaching or coaching so they can create scenarios that will put them in a position to act out. Likewise with people who create a financial facade to hide their plotting to defraud people of their money. Ditto on people who knowingly create a false persona to generate adoration or sympathy. Are any of these reasons applicable to understanding why he plagiarized? I don't know. It's certainly food for thought, though.

Not sure where to find it online. If you absolutely have to have it(to learn a part for a band you are in), it is on the "Hollywood Situation" album which was released in late 1974 on the Casablanca Records label. Amazon or eBay, maybe? You could always sell it when you are done with it. PS------- It might also be on "Best Of The Hudson Brothers"(not sure of the label on that one.)

There's a band in Ohio named McGuffey Lane. They used to do a song that had these lyrics: "My name is Burt It's on my shirt I'll pump your gas And kick your----------------." I have to wear a shirt that has my first name over the right pocket. It drives me nuts when I am at "Burger Biggy" and the counter person addresses me by name. Likewise if I pop into the grocery on the way home. It gives people a license to pretend they know you. THEY DON"T!!! What's just as bad is that the company name and logo is over the other pocket. They seem to think that entitles them to free technical advise. IT DOESN'T!!! Of course the flip side is that I save a ton of money because I never have to buy clothes for work. No real point, just rambling.