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When I was in Fellow Laborers, part of the agreement was that we would each sponsor someone in the corps. Bottom line is: 1.We payed to be in the FL program. No pay------------ 2.We had to work secular jobs so we could ABS. 3.We spent nearly every free hour doing limb work for free. AND 4.We had to sponsor someone in the corps. If this wasn't a money making scheme, I'll be a monkey's prayer partner!!

Soft summer breeze and the surf rolls in To laughter of small children playing Someone's radio has the news tuned in But nobody cares what he's saying.

Just tell me your shoe size, dear lady, and I'll see to it that there's a pair of cowboy boots awaiting your arrival. (Can't promise they'll be red but I'll try.)

Hey there, Mike I'm hoping maybe you can help me with a problem. You see, in PFAL, Dr. teaches that revelation can never contradict the "written" Word if it has been "rightly divided". Well, PFAL is God-Breathed(ie: revelation) and yet there are portions of it that contradict the written Word. So the problem I have is this: Doesn't PFAL use its own system of logic to actually disqualify itself as being genuine revelation? Here's one that really has me baffled . AC syllabus/pg. 15 Word of Knowledge What it is not: 4. It is not a knowledge of God or His Word. This comes by study, learning and application of self. So now, if PFAL came by Word of Knowledge(God-Breathed revelation), then according to the definition in the AC class, it is not a knowledge of God or His Word. It would seem to follow then that it would be necessary for us to discount the PFAL class as an authoritative source of knowledge pertaining to God or His Word. I'm looking forward to your response. You don't have to get too detailed. Just a brief "synopsis" will do.

Is it---------- Sundays Will Never Be The Same-------Spanky and Our Gang?

Ever wonder why "phonetics" is spelled with a "ph"? Hey!----- I'm just sayin'------------------

All You Zombies-----The Hooters(Cindy Lauper's back-up band) Tom WW posted these lyrics around Halloween so I don't feel right taking it. How about another one hit wonder?

Hi Larry Yeah, we Clevelanders got to see quite a few who went on to bigger things. Joe stepped into The James Gang to fill the guitar spot when Glenn Schwartz departed to join Pacific Gas and Electric. (Are You Ready?) And then there was Grand Funk, Bob Seger,(Detroit) Eric Carmen, Sonny Geraci, Glass Harp and, of course, The OJ's. If you are in that area, you might be interested to know that Glenn plays around town with his brother Gene(bass player for many years for Robert Lockwood) and they bill themselves as The Schwartz Brothers. Run For The Roses: Well, You probably know it's about the Kentucky Derby. I guess there's some kind of parallel to be drawn about working toward a goal. Last I heard, Dan Fogelberg(writer of said song) was fighting a battle against advanced prostate cancer.

Very good point, Thomas Maybe it should have been called, "Forcing our doctrines on the rest of the World" But then, of course the bumper stickers would have had to say, "FODOTROTW". (Not nearly as catchy as "WOW".)

Fundamentals of Greek Research-----Walter J. Cummins(25-30 pages) (Very basic, more like an overview than a lesson.) So You Want To Read Faster-----------Donald E. Wierwille(2 or 3 pages) Understanding What You Read---------Donald E. Wierwille(2 or 3 pages) (Probably the first 10 minutes of a high school English class lecture.) There was also a booklet called: Christian Etiquette------Dorothy Owens (Which we used in Fellow Laborers of Ohio) I always thought this one was pretty good when not viewed as some kind of "Law". If I remember correctly, it was one of the few of such booklets that seemed academically honest in that she made a full disclosure of her sources and didn't pretend these were her ideas or that they came by revelation. A couple more that I remember are: I Can Do All Things-----Peter J. Wade The Secret Of Radiant Living--Peter J. Wade The Spoken Word------Walter J. Cummins I'll keep looking. If I find them I will send you a PM.

Perhaps the VP apologists who are in denial that they were hoodwinked (like the rest of us) are the ones who really need to----------- Get over it! He was a con artist, fellas, a flim-flam man. He was no modern day David or Paul. His so-called "ministry" was a self serving business designed to satisfy his own personal lusts. He did so at your expense, in case you hadn't noticed. Wallow in your self delusion if that's your choice. Personally, I think you VP idolaters are the ones who really need to ----------- Get over it!

This thread sure has gone a long way from discussing sales tactics for PFAL to comparing VPW with actual men of God. Seeing how twisted some of the graduates turned out, makes me regretful I ever signed up ANYBODY! Maybe these VPW worshipers could put their heads together and start a "Why I worship VPW" thread.

Mustard just doesn't get that big here in the Midwest. Maybe it did in Bible times. Maybe it didn't. Who knows? What bothers me, is that Pillai said he had seen this plant, alive and thriving, in the twentieth century. How come nobody else did? Anyway, it's a parable. It's not meant to be accepted as literal fact anyhow. That's how parables work. Maybe the very fact that mustard doesn't grow that big is an integral element of the parable. Dunno.

Ed Cassidy----------- Yeah---------That's the Spirit!!!

Hi Mike Not sure I understand the spiritual "significance" of that cartoon on post #86. Perhaps you could expound on the finer points of the illustrations. Or maybe just give a "synopsis" of sorts. (I already "get" the text portions.) ps. Have you named that pony yet?

Off topic (kinda) Jorma has a place "down the road" from here called Fur Peace Ranch. He brings in big name performers and runs guitar workshops along with his old Hot Tuna buddy, Jack Cassady. But alas, the last time I checked, they had no workshops planned to study the finer points of bongo drums. Sigh!

Yup I think I might have them somewhere. Not sure. There was another one about understanding Greek, as well. I'm not sure I would label them collaterals. Maybe peripherals would be more accurate. OK, I know that's a silly little point. I just meant that they are not related to the PFAL class, specifically, like the other materials that are considered collaterals. I'll try to see if I still have them but it's been a long time and several moves since I saw them.

Hey folks Nobody murdered VPW so that there proves conclusively that he was one "A-OK" kind of guy. Yup. Shore does. Johnnyheis said so. And I can clearly see how it is relevant to a discussion of sales ploys used to pitch PfAl. Hey, Johnny----Did you know he had body guards? Did you know he sent "goons" out to have "friendly" conversations with people out in the field who were bad-mouthing "The Ministry"? Yeah, I see it now. Nobody murdered him so that proves he didn't do anything wrong. I gotta tell ya, Johnsonur, that's some pretty twisted logic. Do you ever consider murder as an answer to dealing with someone who has wronged you? You can tell me Johnny, It's just between us pals.

Don't let yourself feel old. About 250 people heard him teach this stuff at AC '73 also.

HA! Now I see it! When Wierwille was quoting God-Breathed scripture, his words were God-Breathed. (And Vice Versa) Nikita Krushev memorized the Gospels word-for-word. Therefore, when he recited them, his words were God-Breathed. It's all clear to me now. We must all begin immediately to master The Communist Manifesto. It's God-Breathed because Krushev could recite it as well.

Sheesh The guy made all kinds of references relating to this subject and THOUSANDS of people heard him do so. How hard is that to comprehend? Along these same lines, there were teachings going around in the mid-'70s that the spiritual reason North America was allowed to be taken from the natives is because they were worshipping false Gods and that God knew in his foreknowledge that The Way would flourish in what is now America. Sick----Sick-----Sick-----and---- Sicker!

Groucho Pm me if you need any help. Uhmmmm-------Testing the Sangria, that is.

It's a shame Flip Wilson died so young. He could have taken "The Right Reverend Leroy" and "The Church of What's Happenin' Now" to a whole new level.

God told Abraham "Kill me a son." Abe said "Man, you must be puttin' me on." God said "No." Abe said "What??" God said "Well, you can do what you wanna but next time you see me comin', you better run." Abe said "where do you want this killin' done?" God said "Out on Highway 61" Highway 61 Revisited-----------Bob Dylan ------------------------------------------------------- Does it surprise me that Bob Dylan is a prophet just like Joni Mitchell? Nope--- Not at all. What surprises me is finding out that Abraham lived in Mississippi. (In the Delta, no less.) Man! These rock songs are just filled with God-breathed word. Weren't any of us paying attention? Maybe we've just forgotten.