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Anyone know where to find the stuff Raf did on the tithe?

Please choose the explanation that most closely describes the cause of this incident a. The adversary caused it because The Word was really moving and the believers were red hot. b. The adversary was able to cause it because The Word was not moving and the believers were lukewarm. c. The guy in the car was a prophet who foresaw the day when he would model for this Emoticon--- d. This was the direct manifestation of a disgruntled ex-TWI's believing to "stick it to da man-o-gawd". e. Some townies were out cruisin' and just decided to have some fun. --------------------------------------------------------------------- There is no right or wrong answer. You will be notified soon if you are a successful candidate for the advertised position. Thank you for expressing an interest in The Waste International, Inc.

I could be mistaken but I think one of Da^e Brub3ck's kids might have taken the class in the mid 1970's. I seem to recall DB was at the rock one year though I don't think he performed.

Here's some information regarding how the human eye/brain interprets color. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_vision It is possible to scientifically test to determine if what they see as red, for example, represents the typical wavelength parameters that define "red". Here is the Ishihara pseudoisochromatic color test commonly used in doctors offices. You can click on the link to take the test. http://colorvisiontesting.com/ishihara.htm

I would have to say that your experience was a good deal out of the ordinary. It seems like the farther away you got from being a "mere" twiggie(leaf), the more demands were exacted on your commitment. In FLO, we lived in a commune of about 50 with 6 or 7 per apartment. We were required to work 40 hours a week at a secular job(which we were supposed to use to witness and promote "the class"), ABS, sponsor a Corps person, pay into a rent fund, pay into (and work at) a food co-op, pay into a household fund (for the individual apartment utilities, etc.) and spend just about any time we weren't at our jobs doing FLO requirements such as working in the garden, painting, cleaning the BRC, etc. There was a 5am fellowship every morning followed by a short mile run before you got ready for work. There was also a half hour fellowship every night between the required work time at limb hq and the midnight "lights out". You had to request special permission just to go into town on a Saturday morning to go to the post office or bank. And, since there were 49 other people who were not being granted that luxury, you didn't ask for it often lest you rendered envy. Of course, we did get Sunday afternoon off. Doing laundry together on Sunday was like a FLO "date". :(

At least the shipping is free.

Doesn't ring a bell.

When was logic ever part of how these things were decided? <_< I remember it was taught in the AC that people who really "made it" in music and the arts only did so because they sold out to the adversary. Maybe Wierwille spent too much time studying the legend of Tommy Johnson selling his soul to the devil at the crossroads in exchange for musical skills.

I used to witness to Phil Keaggy(Glass Harp) and try to get him in the class. It wasn't too hard to do since he lived and gigged nearby. He was always completely committed to the work he was already involved with. He is not a household name but certainly one of the Christian Music genre's earliest and most influential pioneers. It was really just another example of "trophy mentality" on my part. Here's Phil tearin' it up almost 40 years ago.

"Trophy Mentality" And then there was this an old sales schtick, too. "Look Mrs. Jones, your neighbor down the block just bought three of these and you know how discerning a shopper she is."

Skip M3squ!te (tenor sax) and David G@rab@ld!(drums and percussion) of Tower Of Power and Cold Blood, were both very active in The Way at one time. Here is some very early T.O.P. Not sure but I think DG is pounding the skins on this one.

Wierwille was obsessed with finding devil spirits in everything. He taught in the AC that alcoholism was caused by a ds yet he lived his life in a constant drunken stupor, squandering the ABS on gallon upon gallon of Drambuie. He taught in the AC that cancer was caused by devil possession yet he, himself, succumbed to it. Here's the death certificate. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/waydal...sented.....html We had to sing Roll Away after dinner EVERY night in Fellow Laborers. Thank goodness we didn't practice any "rituals". :blink:

I'm pretty sure Bozo The Clown has passed the screen test. ;)

TWI was and is a cult. Belonging to a cult, be it TWI or any other cult, will not foster sanity. Maybe one of the first things to do would be to chuck their dangerous "law of believing" doctrine in the weeds. They conditioned us to believe there was no safety or sanity outside the "household". It's simply a control tactic they and many other cults employ.

I don't recognize this one at all.

We cherish too, the Poppy red That grows on fields where valor led. It seems to signal to the skies That blood of heroes never dies. http://www.greatwar.co.uk/poems/faith.htm http://www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.html

I'm not sure what that's about. I just now "clicked" it and it went straight to the site. :blink:

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Q. "How do you think he does it?" A. "I don't know."

97.327% of all statistics are just made up numbers.

I think there was often a "trophy mentality" that surrounded disabled folks. "Geeze! If we could only get Suzie healed of that withered hand, we would have people BEGGING us to take the class." It had nothing to do with compassion for Suzie and everything to do with selling "the class'.

I found a mention of compassion in the Christian Counseling syllabus. Again, I don't know the authorship. Page 19 4. Do not become so emotionally involved you allow emotion to cloud your judgment. Involved, yes, but never to an extreme. Sympathy is one big counterfeit. Nobody needs it; nobody wants it. Compassion, yes, sympathy, no. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, that sounds pretty good but if you aren't supposed to be "unequally yoked" with unbelievers, who else except the believers can you become emotionally involved with?

Taurus--------Spirit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTFdlbup24

Sex outside of marriage? Oh, my! HeeHee The Whole World's Fightin' About The Same Thing. Always has been. Here's a clip that addresses that very subject.

In the class, Christian Counseling, compassion was replaced by confrontation and an insistence that "renewed mind"(to TWI doctrine) is the answer to life's problems. Here is an excerpt: ---------------------------------------------------- "If something happens to upset me, for example,; and I start dwelling on it, and I get more and more upset, then I just got myself into a whole lot of trouble. However, if I catch myself; and I say, "Wait a minute! I have got a meeting coming up. I am going to put a smile on my face . I am going to act happy if it kills me!" Do you know what I start feeling like pretty soon? Happy. It is available because I can control that smile. I can control whether I do my ironing, etc., If I make up my mind I am going to do it; and so can the people you will be counseling with." ------------------------------------------------- And there is much more in the class that deals with our "duty" to confront our brothers and sisters who are "off The Word". In other words, we were supposed to deny ourself the ability to understand our emotions and the emotions of others. We were, instead, to self-delude ourselves under the guise of "renewed mind". There's not much room left in there for compassion and sympathetic listening. Disclaimer: If the person who wrote this class is a member of this board, I apologize for singling this out. I am guilty myself because I bought into this stuff hook, line and sinker.