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House Of The Rising Sun----(Traditional) as done by The Animals

Tommy Castro-----------------Nasty Habits

Time and Era First "tour of duty" was 1975-1977 Is that radically different?

Do I need to paste my post(#4 )or can I just direct your attention to it? Yeah, we had unstructured time-----from midnight to 5am. (And a little bit on the weekend for doing laundry, etc.) Doing laundry with a member of the opposite sex(instead of a car full of other FLO) was about as close to a "date" as you could hope to get most of the time. In regard to curriculum------------- it was almost nonexistent. There were maybe two TV's in the whole program and they were NOT for public usage. They were personal property. It wouldn't have mattered anyway because there was rarely a time you could have just sat and watched a ball game even if you wanted to.

Sorry. I thought someone would get that one right away. *Sigh* NEXT!

Fast forward to approx. 7:40 for the tongues sequence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD2Hyiitpys

I don't see it as a question of whether or not the final decision was theirs. The point is, outside forces may have contributed to their decisions. In this case, the outside force was an irresponsibly dangerous program administered by the Way Ministry.

This appears to be an extreme departure from the experience that many others had, including myself.

My first exposure to the L.E.A.D. accident and surrounding events came via GreaseSpot Cafe. My personal feeling is that these events and details were deliberately hidden from the general populace of the ministry. I have never seen a rebuttal from The Way, either, even though we are all quite aware they know the incident has been discussed here.

The reason I asked if anyone recognized her or her name is that there is a scene where she leads the kids into speaking in tongues that shares a lot of similarities with session #12. (She even starts her tongue with "Lashanta---) It made me wonder if she had been exposed to PFAL at some time, either personally or vicariously. According to the information I found on her, she is a fourth generation Pentecostal. Maybe they have always done it this way, I don't know. If they have, it would seem to cast a shadow on the authenticity of session #12.

I noticed that too. Anybody recognize her or her name?

another short clip

The sound effects were added by the person who uploaded it to youtube to make it even creepier. You can go to youtube and watch the actual movie in 10 minute installments. I think TWI is even scarier because they were so clever about camouflaging its true nature, whereas this group is very blatant and obvious.

After The Goldrush---------Neil Young "Teeny Bopper, my teenage lover----"

Hmmmm. I should have quit you A long time ago Sounds like Killin' Floor by Howlin' Wolf The rest of it doesn't fit though so that can't be it.

Stumped :(

They(the cult) may be hiding her somewhere, Pond. There were occasions in Fellow Laborers when we would "host" visitors for a weekend or so before they moved on. We weren't allowed to ask questions or talk about it, even among ourselves. I always got the impression they were trying to avoid de-programmers but that's just a hunch. Who knows? As large as they are, they may well have an "underground" network of sorts.

I was "witnessed to" by a twig of young people out witnessing in a park. They were 4 or 5 years younger than me. One rather attractive young lady took it upon herself to assume the undershepharding responsibilities. Almost immediately, she started to gently move me away from my friends and capitalize my time. (But not in a possessive kind of way that you might see in a made-for-TV movie.) She followed everything in the W&U class to a tee (even though there actually was no W&U class yet at that time.) It was completely platonic. I found that to be quite refreshing. (In contrast to some of the subculture I was hanging out with). We spent lots and lots of time that first week discussing what I thought at that time were philosophical issues. I know I said many things that I later found out were contrary to Way doctrine. She was very cautious, though, not to correct me but rather she presented an alternate perspective for my consideration. We read the Word and the Blue Book quite a bit together. Not long after that, I found myself in PFAL. Of course, now we had even more to discuss and bond over. I felt pretty close to her. Our (platonic) friendship was getting quite strong. (or so I thought) At about the middle of the class, I discovered by accident that she was actually the class instructor's fiance!! Man, I felt like a real sap . But by that time I had become so enthralled with the class I didn't even consider dropping out. Someone else took over the undershepharding duties almost immediately. This time it was a guy. That actually made it even easier for me to believe I was there for the class and not a gender based relationship. I went from being a "free wheelin', guitar totin' hippie" to a bona fide Jesus Freak in what must have been record time. Looking back on it, I still don't understand how I let it happen.

Link to Amazon http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...mp;#entry406309

Close enough for me!!

Does anyone remember Wierwille stating that intercourse is always a spiritual event? He also said something about the consummation being a key ingredient in what constitutes a marriage in God's eyes. He said the spiritual marriage in God's eyes is the only one that really counts and that a legal marriage is just something to satisfy the law of the land. I think it might have been in CF&S. Therefore, by his own definition, he himself practiced polygamy and promoted it as a doctrine amongst the upper echelon of TWI. (At least within the "spiritual" sense he used to define it.)

No takers on this one yet? Sheesh!! Where's your spirit of adventure? Oh, well, no skin off my nose.

Where else will they have to go?

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jsKwdW...DnrJrs8_kx5nksA http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...as_church_raid/ Polygamy is illegal in Texas. The legal age of "consent" is 16.