waysider

Here's the big kahoona of all alternative sites: http://secondlife.com/

Ya know This is probably a little off topic but this conversation reminded me of the silly "initiation into the inner sanctum" ceremony at the Advanced Class. Sure, everyone knew it was a joke.(I hope) But then again, maybe it was intended to serve a subtle "obviating" function as well. So, if someone (not an AC grad) were to hint at some inner society inside TWI, you would smugly do an "internal grin" and think they were misinformed. It might not be as far fetched as it seems. Don't forget, VP was already setting people up in "PLAF(The Wonder Class)" with his spin on how "all the women in the kingdom belonged to the king".

When I got witnessed to in 1972, one of the single young ladies immediately took it upon herself to undershepherd me. She made sure she spent much one-on-one time with me. The prospect of a personal relationship was a deliberate deception on her part. I can say this because neither she nor any of the other believers bothered to tell me she was already engaged. She did not wear a ring and never talked about the guy. Half way through the class I found out by accident but by then I was more interested in the class than I was in her. Right after the class ended, they got married. Too late. I was already hooked on The Way. This whole thing was sanctioned by the class instructor. TWI definitely used deceptive practices to sell "PLAF(The Wonder Class)" even as early as 1972. Does telling that incident embarrass me? Of course it does. But if it helps people understand how TWI has been a deceptive organization even from the early days, then so be it. edited to note this: The class instructor was not just some local believer, he was there specifically at the request of International HQ to run classes. He was there as a representative of the organization.

Nah! Someone else take it. I've been hogging it too much lately. I just wanted to put that clip up for funzies. Pretty cool 'Fro, wouldn't you say?

Billy Preston ("The Fifth Beetle")

Same old same old. "Nah. We don't put him on a pedestal, we we just deny the inaccuracies we present as evidence of what a swell guy he was." Wierwille's so-called contributions that they cite are grossly misrepresented to the point of being flat out false. Maybe they are nice people, I don't know. The two old ladies in Arsenic And Old Lace were nice, too. That's how they managed to keep the window seat occupied.

Ironic, though, isn't it? They couldn't figure out whether or not it was OK to sleep with your neighbor's spouse and yet we trusted them to know the inside scoop on------ ETERNAL LIFE!

I'm stumped.

His VPW page in the Christian heroes section is so laden with inaccuracies and falsehoods, it's impossible to view this as anything other than misguided adoration for Wierwille. Of course, one could buy the PFAL book and collaterals he is hawking at the bottom of the page and prove his claims for themself.

I wouldn't begin to judge him. I would,however, judge his web site. This isn't the first time I've read through it. It's a vehicle designed to worship an idol named V.P. Wierwille. Even the biographical data is inaccurate and biased. People need to accept the fact that the man was a huckster and a fraud.

I Talk To The Wind Cadence And Cascade

HaHaHaHa!! I actually remember when we used to use that as a come-back to people who accused us of being brainwashed. (We really did think we were clever, though, didn't we?)

We have a winner!!

Glad All Over----DC5 ("The butter wouldn't melt so I put it in the pie.") Note: Not the opening line.

Have you had his vision thoroughly tested? In a person who senses are all functioning normally, 80% of the learning process is facilitated by the visual system. (Sheesh! I learned that all those years ago in school and finally I had an opportunity to say it. :) ) Now, I'm not just talking about visual acuity(the 20/20 chart). There are lots of other things too like stereopsis(depth perception), color deficiencies, eyes that want to turn this way or that when they get too tired, ambliopia(lazy eye), etc. It all plays a vital role in a child's ability to learn at a normal pace.

I listened to a little bit of it. I'll have to listen again when I can listen to it in its entirety. It sounds like quite a bit of the core concepts are very similar to TWI. More extreme but similar.

HMMMM! I'd recommend not naming it Cocoa. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...c=14212&hl=

Absolutely!

"I'm gonna take 3 weeks, I'm gonna have a fine vacation."

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Snowball

Well, I suppose a good many of us also bought into the Great Man of God, Leader, Teacher, etc. persona that Wierwille portrayed to us in our more naive days. What would you have us do now, continue on in the charade or admit we got fooled?

"I don't want to spoil the party so I'll go." OOPS! That won't work. Can someone else take the next one?

She's Just My Style------Gary Lewis and The Playboys

The armed thugs scenario came as no surprise to me. A friend of mine in another state told me he had seen some things going on that appalled him. He was deliberately vague. He said he was warning the 'believers" in his area. Next thing I know he is telling me that he had been paid a personal visit at his home, hundreds of miles from HQ, by two "goons" who told him, in no uncertain terms, to stop bad mouthing The Way or else. This guy was not the kind of guy to make this stuff up. I believed him then and still do. I remember thinking, though, that there must be something really deep about this that I didn't understand. "Surely there has to be some really profound reason for such drastic measures."I told a few people about this, at the time, but you can imagine the kind of reception I got in revealing this. Now here's the really creepy part-----This was in 1979!!