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In the 60s, it wasn't all about "me, me, me" and making lots of money. I'm not sure if it was because of our youth or because we were products of our time, but many of us were more concerned with making this old world a better place. It was idealistic, of course, but that's just how it was. That's a hard concept to convey to the younger generation who have been conditioned to put their own well being above that of their fellow man.

Oldies said: "One may emulate, follow and obey someone else and not consider them a replacement for Christ. For instance, children are to emulate follow and obey their parents.. doesn't make the parents a replacement for Christ." ********************** PFAL syllabus page 11 "Christ is the living Word, the written Word the preached Word." page 12 "God and the Word are one." "It takes the Master's place in us through the Renewed Mind". page 16 "Christ is the Word in the flesh, made known by the written Word, made known by the preached Word." Session #5 "It's God in Christ in you." ************************************************ Yes, folks, VPW really did, indeed, teach that Christ is absent and we are his replacement, not just some people to "emulate, follow and obey". And, he said that if we were ever in doubt, (session #12) we should "ask the Teacher", the man who set himself up to be the ultimate replacement for the absent Christ.

"Lots of stuff I teach is not original." It's right there in front of us. The guy was telling us it was stolen. Without saying WHO the author of the original was, it's only HALF a statement. I can just see a guy telling the cops, "Lots of those T.V.s and stereos aren't mine." Huh?? Whose are they and where did you get them?

Once on line....today's worker's were upset to find that.............. --------------everyone was already singing "Roll Away". And so, frustrated by the inevitable fate that awaited-------

You tell me. Do you claim to have knowledge of God that hasn't been known since the first century?

Kathy Simpson

PFAL class: "The Word takes the place of the absent Christ." "It's Christ in VP Wierwille." So, then, what defines "The Word". Simple. Anything that comes out of the mouth of Wierwille because he is, after all, privy to knowledge that hasn't been known since Ephesus was a nothing but a bunch of spec. homes on the lake. By his logic, when he spoke, it was supposedly like Christ speaking. You would have to disregard PFAL to dispute that successfully.

"Retarded" is not a bad word, in and of itself. How it is applied is another story. The problems arise when the speakers intentions are less than honorable or when the hearer perceives them as such. Unfortunately, we can't always know what the speaker's intentions are or, if we are the speaker, how our words will be perceived. It's best to err on the side of caution, in my opinion. Besides, we all have our own disabilities. Some are just more visible than others.

Back then, I wouldn't have dared to lie to leadership. They had us believing they could get revelation when they needed it. (Reach up in Daddy's cookie jar.) And they used the Ananias & Saphira scripture to hold us at bay. There was that, and the danger of leaving the hedge of protection. If you just "played along to climb the ladder", after realizing it was a crock of road apples, that would make you the deceiver. I believe that's what VPW did.

Now there is a 558 page transcript of the 1979 Advanced Class up for bid at $199.00. No bids so far. Seller is in Elyria, Ohio. http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksi...-All-Categories ALSO

I don't go to Sunday School anymore.

There are other examples of well known musicians whose talents were wasted by TWI.

Sugar Blue

Happy Birthday

Lighning in a Bottle

I couldn't decide whether to put this here or one of the splinter threads. THE SORCERER"S APPRENTICE

I think people get their pantyhose in a bunch because they still have some pie in the sky notion there are golden nuggets of wisdom hidden between the pages. As far as a court is concerned, they probably couldn't care less if this was a class on organic ant farming or mini bike customization. It's just a bunch of old cassette tapes of no particular intrinsic value. It just highlights the hypocrisy of the whole World Over The World scam. It was never about some noble cause, making sure everyone heard the gospel. It was about making money for TWI.

This is a MEAN OLD WORLD.

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Try living your life without that luxury on a 24/7-365 basis for 2, 3, 4 years at a time. Never knowing from minute to minute if something you said or did could get you tossed out into the night. It takes a toll.

And this segues back into the old question of whether he really believed his own drivel. I should think the answer would be rather obvious.

Time Has Come Today

I still don't understand why they need WayGB when all they have to do is "reach up in Daddy's cookie jar". hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Religion can be a big and profitable business. M. Dr!sc@ll has a very large inventory of product to satisfy his customers. Here is an Amazon link with 69 products for potential customers. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search...coll&page=1 His interests in "planting" and growth certainly seem to be vested.