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3. Physical training making your physical body, the vehicle of communication of the Word, as vital as possible. Yep. I can sure see where chain smoking Kool "shorties" and maintaining a constant state of drunkenness with an endless flow of Drambuie would exemplify this one. <_<

"The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones. So let it be with Caesar DocVic." ---------------------William Shakespeare (sorta)

Ok, this one has gone "cold". I'll just post and someone can have a free turn. Here is Norah Jones with her interpretation of .

Tomato enemy: http://www.extension.umn.edu/yardandgarden...blkwal-tox.html

This is a good example. You and I both sat cross legged, half asleep on that cold concrete basement floor nearly every morning for two years. We "ran with the cows" and plucked thistles from the chard patch. You understand the "wayside" reference and I understand the "Watered Garden" reference. It would be hard for me to outright fabricate something about FLO that would get past your radar. There are lots of similar examples here.

1. Acquire an in-depth spiritual perception and awareness. What the hell does that even mean? I mean, really. Does it mean trying to live according to the load of garbage that was passed off in the Advanced Class about revelation and devil spirits as if it was really true? 2. Receive training in the whole Word so as to be able to teach others. The Way was never interested in "The Whole Word". The focal point was always locked on emphasizing those areas that agreed with VPW's twisted private interpretation. It's right there in PLAF (The Wonder Class). Wierwille makes his pitch for dispensationalism. That's what gave him the loophole he needed to live the perverted lifestyle he enjoyed and claimed it (the administration delineation) was proof of his high level of spiritual understanding. It was nothing but plain, old fashioned rationalization. 3. Physical training making your physical body, the vehicle of communication of the Word, as vital as possible. Nothing wrong with pursuing physical fitness---unless, of course, the purpose of doing such is to "make yourself a vehicle" to hawk PFAL. (ie: VPW's idea of "The Word".) 4. Practice believing to bring material abundance to you and the Ministry. Practice "believing"????? Is it just me or does anyone else see a problem with trying to practice something (the law of believing) that is neither Godly nor Biblical? There is no shortage of discussion on GSC regarding the pop psycho babble that Wierwille declared to be the fulcrum upon which the existence of Man teeters. And why should we do it? Why, to bring "abundance" (a misguided, misinterpretation of John 10:10) to yourself and "The Ministry", of course. 5. Go forth as leaders and workers in areas of concern, interest and need. But before you do that, make damned sure those "areas of concern, interest and need" agree with Way doctrine and ultimately serve to generate a steady flow of income through the promotion of classes, programs, books, ABS, etc. If they don't, (fit that criteria) be ready to "shake the dust off your feet".

Exactly! This isn't like some other cyber hangouts where nobody actually knows anyone. If I say "such and such" happened in Cleveland in 1974, there are plenty of people who were there in 1974 and would most likely know if my statement is incorrect. When I was a kid, all the guys had nicknames. (Froggie, Skeeter, Buzzy, Punkin Head and so on) but amongst our group, we knew who was whom, so those names didn't really represent anonymity so much as an extension of our identities.

Jeff I just "googled" your name. It brought me straight to your profile on GSC. I just thought you would like to know.

Elderberries----yum! I still remember how, as kids, we would go out and pick wild elderberries so my Grandmother could make elderberry preserves and elderberry pie. --- Ok, they weren't really "wild", they were planted and forgotten on a piece of land that was owned by a cemetery.

The sum and substance of the principles was that one was to pledge their allegiance and loyalty to a stinking cult. Why would anyone want to do that?

You mean stuff like this? CP4 (also a FLO principle)--- "Believe faithfully to live abundantly on a genuine need basis and to bring physical and material abundance to God's Household of The Way Ministry at all levels." Let me rephrase this one. "Try to change things in the physical world with mystical, magical, wishful thinking (otherwise known as "the law of believing") and accept poverty and sickness as the result. And, to do whatever I can to make a bloodsucking bunch of hypocrites at the top of the TWI food chain wealthy and powerful at the expense of the rank and file." Uhhmmmmm---I think I'll pass.

Worrisome Heart

No guesses? Here's a clue. It was originally written and recorded nearly 60 years ago. It was a big hit for two different artists, in two different genres in 1951. Since then, dozens of big names have reinterpreted it. Most recently, it was a very big hit (so to speak) for a relatively new artist that is currently active and quite successful.

"Don't send me no flowers when I'm in the graveyard, 'cause then I can't smell a thing." ------ Floyd Dixon

Jeff Even though I choose to remain anonymous, there are probably at least a half dozen people here who know my identity because we knew each other face to face while in The Way. There are probably that many again who know my identity because we have corresponded to exchange books, tapes, etc. And, if "The WayGB" doesn't know who I am, they haven't been paying attention because I have been straight forward about my personal history which includes ties to some at HQ who might recognize coinciding experiences. So, in reality, I'm not really "anonymous". Still, I like to keep it the way it is. Maybe that's just me. There are lots of reasons to keep it that way that may not even involve The Way. For example, would you really want a prospective employer or loan officer or court official to do a google search and prejudge you based on cult involvement that is decades past? Why not simply avoid the issue by using a "handle"? Then, if you feel compelled to reveal your identity to specific individuals, you can do so on an individual basis. But, it's really a personal choice that everyone has to make for themselves.

Maybe VPW should have taken the Advanced Class. ********************************* Page 6 WORD OF WISDOM "---is the manifestation of Word of Knowledge applied." (ie: What to do with Word of Knowledge once it's been given to you.)

Actually, that's very astute artistic observation. Throughout various periods in art, large male genitalia was considered freakish and grotesque. I suppose a more recent counterpart that would illustrate this attitude would be the flapper era of the 1920's, when large breasts were considered passe and unattractive. Women wore special clothing to make themselves appear flat chested and shapeless.

Madonna and Child

There was a time when I believed that you belonged to me But now I know your heart is shackled to a memory The more I learn to care for you,the more we drift apart Why cant I free your doubtful mind

Starts at 4:00

As long as you follow the general rules that apply to GreaseSpot, I personally don't see where there would be a problem. It's fairly common here for people to "bump" old threads up to the top.

Women haters??? Oh, my! Like the late, great William Clarke sang: (starts at 4:00) :P

Maybe it's just the power of suggestion but it sure looks like Eve has a bit of an "Adam's apple".

Another love before my time Made your heart sad and blue And so my heart is paying now For things I didn't do In anger unkind words are said that make the tears drops start

I prefer this rendition. :)