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I wonder if they like millet.

What happened to all my prayers? Ya know, before I ever heard of The Way, I had no idea my prayers were second rate. Then I got witnessed to and found out I had it all wrong. See, you can't actually talk to God like you talk to everyone else. You have to have this special language, that they speak in the land of Lo Shanta, or God won't have a clue what you're talking about.And, God can't talk back to you either unless you talk to yourself in this new language lots and lots every day. And you have to make a real effort to expand your vocabulary, too, or God will just keep telling you the same stuff over and over again. Heck, I've even heard people say they prayed to God for answers (without the Lo Shanta stuff) and, presto, someone from TWI appeared to invite them to Twig and sign them up for PLAF. But, how can that be if God can't understand your prayers in the first place? So then my question is this: What happened to all those prayers I said before I heard of TWI?

This new SOWERS program is proof that the beast's heart is still beating. It's like a stinking time machine, designed to go back and start The Corps and Fellow Laborers all over again. They seem to have completely disregarded any valuable lessons that might have been gleaned from TWI history. Sure, it looks harmless enough today, but what assurances are there it will turn out any different when, in fact, the very principles it has been fashioned after have been proven to be defective and dangerous? In fact, how do we really know it isn't a phantom effort of the monster that spawned it? TWI is still current news, IMO.

Funny how he could use his "believing" to get lots of these: and lots of this: But he couldn't use it to avoid one of these:

I see your point but I don't think it was because of "believing". I think it was a simple matter of VP not giving a rat's azz! As long as he got whatever he wanted, he didn't care what happened to the WOW's or Corpse or staff, etc. edit: "Believing" (or lack thereof) was a handy excuse that Wierwille used to shift the blame of his heinous acts from himself to his victims. Personally, I think he knew full well that the believing stuff was a load of cr@p.

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And that, I surmise, is the latent danger of this seemingly harmless yet insidious and destructive "law".

Yes. My employment there was short lived. Thank you for asking.

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Congrats to all you dudes and dudettes who have decided to embark on one of life's most exciting adventures----learning.

This is wrong on soooo many levels! 1.You are asking God when, clearly, "it is written" (in PLAF) we must claim what's rightfully ours. 2.They will use discerning of spirits to detect that spirit of deception that is orchestrating this effort. 3.The LSD won't affect them because if they take up serpents or drink poison it won't harm them. HOWEVER---There is an outside chance the tapes will actually bore them into a premature death.

It wasn't Wierwille's keen spiritual awareness and ability to believe that enabled him to amass a stable full of high priced, vintage motorcycles and classic cars. It was his lack of remorse as he used guile and deceit to fleece the unsuspecting. Lo Shanta LaMaka See Tay---- you move your tongue---you move your lips

Hmmm---kinda sounds like you're talking about geothermal and hydroelectric technology.

Crazy stuff! That's what I'm looking for. Like the time I worked for a company that knowingly required me to handle known carcinogens and I didn't blow the whistle because I could use believing to keep them from hurting me. Cancer is just a devil spirit, anyhow, so renewed mind believing and SIT will keep the trap door shut.---GRRRRRRR!!

Beet greens make some mighty fine eatin'!

Another time, our fearless FLO leader announced at morning fellowship that it didn't matter if we were only getting 4 or 5 hours sleep/night because, if we were speaking in tongues as much as we were supposed to and got our believing up, we could go on virtually no sleep at all. Guess who overslept through 5:30 fellowship the next day-- :P

One of my fellow laborer brothers had what started out as a fairly minor, treatable medical condition. Because of the nature of our program and the expectations that were placed on us, he tried to "believe" for healing. Long story made short, he got septicemia, spent a week in the hospital and darn near lost an appendage, not to mention, his life. Another guy I knew from those days moved on to a position on staff at HQ. He developed a very serious, acute medical condition that can be treated if addressed in the early stages. He was ridiculed because he couldn't get his believing up.He died. That's the kind of "crazy" stuff I'm talking about.

Congratulations to Mr. & Mrs. Garden. (Two of the finest people to ever escape the fellow laborer experience)

"Whether or not a cult is destructive is determined by the morality of the cult leader and the nature of the leader's charismatic dream, said Dr. Cath."

Ok---there ya go. (The doves are on the back side---You just can't see them.)

What's the craziest thing you ever tried to "believe for"? Now, first off, I know that some of these might be quite painful or embarrassing. So,it's okay to generalize. In fact, My own experiences involved interpersonal relationships and jobs that, by all common sense and logic, were headed down the crapper. But crazy me. I figured I would could "fix" everything with SIT and "Release From Your Prisons" type magical believing Just gotta get that camera in focus and stare at it, don'tcha know?

I had a very similar experience that year. One of my family members, who was a new grad, came out to the parking area and found a bumper sticker on the painted area of the trunk of a brand new car. The ROA had one less "happy camper" that year.

Sir! Present and accounted for. Sir!