waysider

Exactly! It's a "not so subtle" form of manipulation. (a vital ingredient in the behavior modification recipe) His classes are overflowing with it. Consider, for the moment, the CF&S class. In one of the sessions, he shows photographs of different shaped penises and even gives names to some of the shapes. Why, in God's name, did anyone need to see or hear that information at all, let alone in a class that was supposed to be Biblical Research? He wasn't warning us there, he was challenging us to accept his twisted mindset. If we accepted that he knew better than we did why it was important information, even if we didn't understand "why", we were one step further into the behavior modification quicksand. "If a man wants to be stoooopid, let him be stoooopid!"

You forgot #3 3. Get ready for your taste buds to do "the happy dance".

I not so sure this was intended to be interpreted as a warning. I think it might have been more of a back-handed challenge to naysayers. It was a psycho trick he used to belittle people who disagreed with him. The PLAF (Miracle Class) is filled with examples of this very thing. "Why, a man would have to be an IDIOT to miss it!"

So---- The L.E.A.D. accident happened in 1982 but it took them until 1994 to end the hitchhiking. Inexcusably callous and negligent. And for anyone still following these morons, I think current "leadership" owes you an explanation of where they stood on the issue those 12 long years.

You've got me running and hiding All over town. You've got me sneaking and peeping And running you down This can't go on...

Momentus

Hi, Holly Here's a link to a rather lengthy thread (39 pages) that deals with some of the darker aspects of L.E.A.D. Unfortunately, many of the dangerous aspects of L.E.A.D. were not abandoned when they came to light, as you will discover in reading the thread. And there is this one, as well:

Wierwille was obviating any future objections.

But if you've been carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow. REVOLUTION---------The Beatles

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Do you ever think about a line from a class and find yourself chuckling about it? Here's a classic from the advanced class: KEYS TO WALKING IN THE SPIRIT 1. To receive revelation, you must first become meek. (Guess that kinda sums it up for Old Doc. )

What's that supposed to mean?

Yes, looking back, I can vividly remember a specific time when "the big dog" himself "warned" me. I was a brand spanking new convert to The Way and let my twig leader talk me out listening to it. "It's just some unrenewed mind, don'tcha know?" "The adversary is playing games with your head." (It's complicated.)

No surprise there, coming from a guy who thinks women should not hold leadership positions.

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I never knew him personally. I met him a few times at "meet and greet" type things. The first time I met him, I was very nervous that he would see some sort of devil spirit in me or something. So, anyway, he shakes my hand as he looks down at my name tag and mispronounces my name. Then, he proceeds to rattle on and on about how we needed to get more committed and really push the PLAF class. Asked me if I was signed up yet to go WOW. By the end of the very one sided conversation, he had to look at my name tag again to remember my name. I was not impressed with his "spiritual awareness". edit: I don't personally count stuff like the AC because those were group settings, not one on one.

Took an afternoon off work to go see the movie when it came out. That's as close as I got.

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Have you seen the photo of these kids? I don't think any of them need a "fat farm".

If I say I agree with you, it's like trying to answer the age old question, "Do you still beat your wife?"

Well, ya see, Taz You just haven't reached that level of spiritual maturity that allows you to realize there was a reason why VeePeePee scratched the RIGHT side (side of blessing) of his nose with the index (knowing this FIRST) finger of his RIGHT hand (hand of blessing) THREE times (completely, completely complete) in session number SEVEN (the number that signifies spiritual perfection). And now you may never have that chance again since the tapes have been retired to the pastures of The Beta Ranch.

Believe it or not, when I first got in The Word, I had this poster on the living room wall of my apartment: PHI ZAPPA CRAPPA Now,in retrospect, one of the things those "recruiters" wanted from me was a place to hold twig meetings since none of them had a place of their own. It didn't take long for them to convince me I needed to destroy the poster, along with all my Spirit, Coven and King Crimson albums.