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Chapter and verse?

Oh, now this is going too far. I'm simply outraged.

"I know you are, but what am I?"----II PeeWee 1:1 edit: My apologies for the obvious display of outrage.

OMG! You are one funny dude! If I had a nickel for every time you caused me to spray my keyboard with coffee, I'd have...uhhh, a whole bunch of nickels. (I hope I didn't sound too outraged.)

"And it came to pass that the Lord spoke to Noah and said, "Build me an ark to the designated specifications." "But, alas, Noah, unable to hear Him clearly, instead, built a birchbark canoe and a couple of birdhouses with the leftover materials." (He sold them on eBay and they all lived happily ever after.) edit: I hope I didn't sound too outraged.

Was he ever in charge of flip-charts at a tape class? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Before the beginning....(Skip to 8:05, if you so choose.)

Ahh! That's the absolute beauty of The Great Principle. "Spirit can only talk to spirit." Sooo... "God, who is spirit, talks to your spirit, which talks to your mind, which is not spirit, which...."...Hey, just a cotton-pickin' minute!

Session 5, PFAL, I think... Well, it was 50 years ago, ya know? (Not all old grads "missed" this the first time around...snark)

This is what I remember, as well. edit: Spoken as guy who sometimes remembers stuff.

"And so it came to pass that the serpent planted his seed in the garden and the snake plant sprung forth." Hallelujah!

Grammatical markers: A concept not widely understood by English speakers, yet oh so critical in some other languages. Just one reason why word studies and interlinear translations can result in pretzel logic. Thinking we could substitute this word for that word and arrive at a meaning. It can be all the difference between going TO the store and coming FROM the store. I think back on images of little kids putting on Mommy and Daddy's clothes and pretending to be grown-ups. That's what we were, kids pretending to understand the nuances of linguistics and translation. Lambano, laballo, ball, throw the ball, throw it out....Lo shanta.

Yes, they had to have conspired on the plan. And not just the two of them, as became apparent when the same scenario played out in FellowLaborers of Ohio, just a short road trip away from HQ. Pretending some big spiritual catastrophe would doom us all if we didn't get in line. All a charade.

I just did a copy/pasta from a YouTube URL.

HERE ya go, Charity.

It was scripted and staged. The same thing happened in FellowLaborers at the same time. What a co-winky-dink,eh? There was nothing spontaneous about it. It was all about eliciting control.

Well, my name it is a number It's on a piece of plastic film

The fool hath said in his heart..."Lo Shanta!"

It's a common cult tactic, not used only by The Way. "Bad things will happen if you leave. You'll be a greasespot in the road by midnight." If the fear for your own safety isn't enough to get to you, shame is waiting in the wings to make an entrance. Shame in believing your decision to leave may have played a part in tragedy or damnation befalling your loved ones. So much for The Abundant Life. Add it to The Green Card.

The implication is that if you abandon TWI, before they reach the age of accountability, they won't be covered by the hedge of protection. Hence, if something bad happens to them, it will be your fault.

It was often used as a pressure tactic to elicit loyalty to TWI. "You can't leave now. "What will happen to your kids?"

Nah, you didn't offend me. What I said is true, but ,I confess, sometimes my attempts at humor are a bit on the dry side for everybody's taste. I think a lot of marriages back then were borderline arranged marriages. You weren't supposed to marry someone, or even date them, unless they were a standing believer and on a comparable level as your own. (Corps marry Corps, advanced class grads marry advanced class grad, etc.)I remember being told in pre-marital counseling that the main reason for two believers to get married is to move the word as a team and put classes together. I'm not saying for a minute that I bought that. I'm only stating that to demonstrate how twisted our thinking had become. Now as far as removing a quote before you post: You could always delete the text and leave the bubble empty. There's also an option at the bottom of the bubble, in a black window, to "clear editor" or something like that. If that fails, you can always ask a moderator to assist you. Remember though, mods aren't full-time and work out of the kindness of their hearts, so be patient with that.

I first heard VPW quote this line in the CF&S class in the early 1970s. I heard it again, while being counseled, as I made preparations to divorce my first wife.

It's like a certain homecare products MLM that leaves you wondering, "Who buys the soap?". You'll find yourself wondering, "Who lives this 'abundant life' they pitched?".

If I recall correctly, I think it was Raf who pointed this out several years ago.