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There was commission??? LOL

You were salesmen.

"Was it in CF&S or at Rome City campus or in some meeting?" I don't think it was in CF&S. I witnessed that debacle more times than I care to admit and don't remember it. Knowing what we now know about him, though, that line of thinking certainly fits his character to a tee. Thanks for the tip on the TV show.

Nah---You're thinking of elephants.

Having grown up not far from Kent State, it has a slightly different effect on me. -----CSN&YYour turn

We only thought it was important because Wierwille told us it was.

You betcha!

We tell the other side of the story.

Don't feel bad, soulsearcher. You figured it out in a couple of months. For some of us, it took years or even decades. Some still can't come to grips with the reality of it all. BTW----I edited my previous post to add more of the Kristen interview.

I'm listening excie. I hear you loud and clear. (Mwaaaa!)

Here's some insight into "the lockbox". http://www.greasespotcafe.com/gsradio/audio/gsradio-2008-02-20-85102.mp3 http://www.greasespotcafe.com/gsradio/audio/gsradio-2008-06-11-80766.mp3 Here's a highly recommended book. Losing The Way (You can order it by using the Amazon box on the home page.)

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming

Isn't that, in essence, what he did in CF&S when he showed photos of breast shapes and then added comments like, "Aren't they just beauuuuuuuutiful?" ?

Living Loving Maid-------The Zeppsters

Yeah, those darn administrations seem to get in the way at the most inconvenient times, don't they?

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And yet another dilemma emerges. They could rationalize the "many wives" by citing instances in the O.T., which was supposedly not addressed to us, while, at the same time, ignoring Titus 1:7, a section of scripture supposedly addressed to us, which delineates the criteria for selecting elders. ("If any be blameless, the husband of one wife----") So, by practicing "polygamy" (as defined in CF&S), they revealed themselves as unworthy candidates for elder positions in the church.

Well, the whole thing presents a dilemma of sorts. If you still believe he was a MOG who spoke for God, then, by his own definition of terms, he was a polygamist. That's something that is biblically unacceptable. If, on the other hand, you no longer believe he was a MOG and that his words lack credibility, he was, by virtue of his behavioral activity, a sexual predator. So, the dilemma here is that we were either following a Bible defying polygamist or a sexual predator. It doesn't look too good either way.

The vow aspect was a very, very big deal to me. I also took a salt covenant the first time I got married. That, too, weighed heavily on my mind as I went through divorce.

VPW---polygamist or just another dirty old man? In Christian Family and Sex, Wierwille stated that sexual intercourse is always (yes, he said "always") a spiritual event. In addition, he said that it creates a deep and lasting spiritual bond between the participants. (This, he said, is why it is crucial that believers never have sex with unbelievers.) He went on to say that marriage, in a biblical sense, is defined by the act of consummation, not the laws of men. The implied conclusion is that if you have intercourse with someone, you are married to them in a biblical sense. So the question this raises is this---- Now that we know Wierwille had sex with dozens, if not scores, of young Way women, does that make him a polygamist or just another dirty old man who spouted jibberish to serve his own private agenda?

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No way! Red drapes are what killed that little boy in PLAF (The Wonder Class). See, when he got hit by the car, the lady in the apartment across the street just happened to notice all the commotion. She yanked those red drapes off the rod and ran out to the street to use them as a make-shift stretcher. In her haste, she ran right into the path of an oncoming septic tank cleaning truck. He swerved to miss her and, well, you already know the outcome.

Like Ham said. So what if you don't believe in Jesus? Sixty seven percent of the World's population professes to NOT believe in Jesus.---- HERE---- And, you have to think that at least some of the other 33%, who say they do, are only doing so to placate someone else.