waysider

By sheer logic, it must have been.

I frequently hear people say they are thankful they learned some good "stuff" in The Way. Like what, specifically? Reading things in context? Weren't we supposed to have learned that already in jr. high school English class? Even so, The Way may have told you to read things in context but then they set a lasting example of how to cherry pick scriptures to make their point. So then what, specifically, are all these good things that people learned in The Way?

Gotta love the David Crosby character.

Yeah. You can cut the "pie" into an "infinite" number of pieces if you want. That doesn't change what The Way tried to pass off as "research". It wasn't research, it was a confirmation, as well as a conformation, of Wierwille's preconceived conclusions. Remember, we're not talking about research in general. We're talking about TWI "research" and how how people have a fondness for remembering it as it never was.

Sorry, Workman, it all sounds like a bunch of verbal tap dancing to me. A scientific experiment that has been validated in, let's say, Kansas, has to produce the same results on Mars?? Where did you learn this approach to validation? It's really not as complex or intellectual as you try to make it sound. The "scriptures", as we know them, are chock full of errors and contradictions, not only because we no longer understand the nuances of the original languages and cultures but, also, because human tinkering has modified the contents time and time again. Wierwille didn't "research" anything. He simply twisted and squeezed and altered the Bible until he was able to make it conform to what he thought it should say. And, what he thought it should say was whatever best suited his own self-serving purposes. And, yet, people still harbor fond memories of how lambano sounds like laballo which sounds like ballo which sounds like ball which is an object to be tossed and, therefore, we are to toss it out into the senses world like a ball is tossed into the field of play. I am my own Grandpaw.

Yep

HERE is an interesting discussion we had a while back.

It was a David Bowie album/movie from the 1970's.

The Danbury Baptist Association of Danbury, Connecticut sent a letter, dated October 7, 1801, to the newly elected President Thomas Jefferson, expressing concern over the lack in their state constitution of explicit protection of religious liberty, and against a government establishment of religion. In their letter to the President, the Danbury Baptists affirmed that "Our Sentiments are uniformly on the side of Religious Liberty — That Religion is at all times and places a matter between God and individuals — That no man ought to suffer in name, person, or effects on account of his religious Opinions - That the legitimate Power of civil government extends no further than to punish the man who works ill to his neighbor..."[5] As a religious minority in Connecticut, the Danbury Baptists were concerned that a religious majority might "reproach their chief Magistrate... because he will not, dare not assume the prerogatives of Jehovah and make Laws to govern the Kingdom of Christ," thus establishing a state religion at the cost of the liberties of religious minorities. [edit] Wall of separation Thomas Jefferson's response, dated January 1, 1802, concurs with the Danbury Baptists' views on religious liberty, and the accompanying separation of civil government from concerns of religious doctrine and practice. Jefferson writes: "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." [6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danbury_Baptists

soul searcher The Way was very big on teaching "predestination". You will find a good deal about it in Ephesians, which is in (surprise, surprise)-----the epistles. "Thus Saith Paul."

I'm not a lawyer. Don't know much about the legal aspects of all this. One thing that does separate John Lynn from Chris Geer , Vince Finnegan, etc. is that John Lynn has come here, pitched his products and used his own name. So, I guess I'm saying that if the guy is willing to openly use his own name, himself, it should, therefore, be ok for us to use it openly in a post. And the converse would apply, as well. Just my opinion.

Babylon

Hmmmm----I guess I never gave much thought as to why they were called the "groovy" Christians of Rye.

If they heard it in The Way, I'm not surprised. EVERYTHING was supposed to have some "secret" meaning.

Dave's not here. (He tripped out, Man.)

One can certainly hope so.

If you wish to retain the "tree" analogy, perhaps it would be best described as a pollard.

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I disagree with your conclusion. This is what penworks said: ---- inerrancy is a premise that disallows genuine research to be done. Why? Because a person who thinks the scriptures must be perfect will only look at evidence to back up their claim. She did not say that "all research has to be based on provable premises". If one were to begin their research with the notion that all scripture is inerrant and that it must all fit together perfectly, one would really be looking for confirmation of what they already believed to be true. That's not "research", that's rationalization, coupled with cognitive dissonance.

Seems to me that we looked up the weather data for that particular time and place on another thread. If I remember correctly, not only did it not snow that day, it never snowed that entire month.

I used to believe The Tooth Fairy left money under my pillow.

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