waysider

I agree with you on this Mr. Squirrel. Simply knowing that he stood before groups of people and made such claims regarding his own daughter, whether true or not, is more than enough to disqualify him as a "good man" in my book.

"She lives in MI. Why don't you call her and ask her about it rather than blindly believe what someone posted here. There's a website called zabasearch.com that will give phone numbers and addresses for free. Go ahead, call her. And while you're at it, why don't you ask her how she feels about the things said here about her dad?" Perhaps you weren't paying attention, John. People have come forward and given first hand testimony that Wierwille made these claims when addressing small, intimate groups. This is not hearsay. Wierwille stated, that when his daughter was approaching or had reached puberty, he fondled her nipples in order to sexually arouse her so she would know what to expect as she grew into womanhood. He claimed that this is something that is customary in aboriginal tribes in remote parts of the World. These incidents really happened. There is a bit more information that I know about this that I am just not going to post. You don't like that? Tough! Now, the question here is if he really did the things he claimed. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. I, for one, believe he did. But, we can't know for sure unless that person actually comes forward. However, we can be 100% sure that he did, at least, confess to committing such acts. What sort of "good person" would made such claims about interactions with his own daughter? "Go ahead, call her. And while you're at it, why don't you ask her how she feels about the things said here about her dad?" Maybe YOU should call HER and ask her how she feels about her father having made these claims. Personally, I doubt you have what it would take to make such a call.

Nope

Good stuff, smitty. Happy to see how things turned out for you. Peace (and all that jazz)

I am a lineman for the county.

Yeah----Now if I could only remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.

Chantilly Lace---Big Bopper

You are probably right, WW. I guess I feel compelled, sometimes, to try to make sense of things that defy logic.

I just glanced over at my bookshelf. As my eyes fixated on receiving the holy spirit today, I flashed back on Wierwille's voice saying, "I didn't write the book!!" That's all I've got. It seemed good for a chuckle at the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM05pCSPSdY I think my Mom would have liked this version. :)

Another take on the homosexual aspect HERE There are elements of bisexuality in every individual. In the course of a normal development, the homosexual instincts are weakened and the heterosexual come to the fore, paralleling the development of the anatomical signs of bisexuality. The nipples of the male, for example, remain in an “embryonic” state. If the homosexual instinct does not disappear, however, but continues its development, the result will be either open homosexuality, if the individual is conscious of his tendency, or latent homosexuality, if he is unaware of it and it is hidden in the unconscious by the authority of the moral censor. However, the thinking, the aspirations and the actions of such a person will reflect his internal conflict. In some cases, the homosexual elements are not manifested till advanced age, appearing like a mysterious flame glowing through the ash. It seems to us that no other perversion (or to use a better term, paraphilia), in its latent occult state, makes such liberal use of various masks and distortions as the homosexual inclination. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Don Juan, this picture of a man in the eternal quest of women, is likewise a masked form of homosexuality. He cannot find the object of his quest and is untiring in his efforts. Nothing can satisfy him since he seeks satisfaction where he cannot find it. He cannot abandon the search because an incessant voice from the unconscious drives him on, and he does not know whence will come the call and where it will lead him. This unceasing flight from one woman to another is sadistic, and an even stronger sadism must develop when a latent homosexual is bound by marriage to one woman. Unconscious but aggressive homosexual tendencies and sadism are inseparable phenomena. When one of the partners to a marriage is a homosexual, the marriage becomes a form of torture, especially when the homosexuality assumes an aggressive shape.

Good post, Calavicci. It's amazing, in retrospect, to realize how one sided it all was.

Hardly. You can't bash higher education on one hand and then turn around and use it as evidence of credibility. Wierwille did the same thing. He bashed the fields of science, philosophy, psychology and higher education in general. Then, he turned around and tried to lend credibility to his so-called ministry by name-dropping associations that he'd had with people of higher learning. Hell, he even represented himself as having received a doctorate when, in reality, his "degree" had been granted by what we now refer to as degree mills. You do realize he wasn't really a "Dr.", don't you? ------------------------------------------------------- "he screwed EVERYBODY.. homosexual tendancies.. led to intellectual conquests.. yeah. The Victoid was as queer as a "three dollar bill.." Ham You may have stumbled onto something here. Perhaps he was so hell bent on conquering women because he was trying to prove to himself that his homosexual tendencies weren't real. It's not so far fetched. I've personally known people who have married and had children in an effort to prove to themselves that their tendencies weren't real. I could be wrong. It's certainly something that merits some consideration, though, in my opinion

FREE POST!!!

I'm sure there is truth in that, especially at the upper levels. Speaking strictly for myself, though, I had no idea such a profound dichotomy even existed until decades after my initial introduction.

Kudos

In post 43, you made this observation: "Typical behavior of today's college educated religion bigots; anything to belittle God's word." In post 93, you made this statement: "Long ago a professor taught me that a misogynist is one who hates women. He further stated that there was no corresponding English word meaning one who hates men." Do you see a discrepancy here, John? In post 43, you display an obvious disdain for higher education. Yet, in post 93, you extol the importance of this man's opinion. By all accounts, Professor Beloof seems to have been a fine fellow. In fact, here is a quote from his obituary: "Robert Beloof was a dramatic, forthright person; in department faculty meetings, most valuably, he often spoke openly of difficulties and problems that others were content to gloss over."... He spoke openly of difficulties and problems that others were willing to gloss over. Perhaps, John, that was the true lesson to be gleaned from his example. (Quote is from this link:Robert L. Beloof)

It would seem that your "professor" was not very well read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misandry

Come gather 'round people wherever you roam and admit that the waters around you have grown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14MZ8eiwcNE

Bare @*&^%*# footin'

Don't gimme no lip, Buster!!

So, then, this whole song and dance routine has really been about you feeling like women have been "bashing" you? You could have said so pages ago.