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I'm baffled as to why you so kindly portray him.

I don't recall it being scheduled to coincide with Passover. At the last twig I was involved with, we held a communion service in lieu of the weekly fellowship. There was no weekly "teaching", just a somber atmosphere and a highly ritualized ceremony, after which we quietly went home..

Yeah, me neither. But, ya know, you can inflict a lot of physical pain by hitting someone over the head with an actual bible. (Those big, heavy family bibles work best.)

I had a close childhood friend who was diagnosed in his teens. He was in and out of treatment facilities and prescribed several medications. This was over 50 years ago. A lot has changed. Long story short, he became suicidal and ended his life just shy of his 21st birthday, just as it seemed like he was making progress with treatment.. I had the misfortune of being the one to discover his body. He was a great guy. You couldn't ask for a better friend. It's not at all like you see in movies and it's not always scary or dangerous. They can sometimes see things, hear things, smell things that aren't really there or remember having a conversation that never took place. But, that's not always the case. Sometimes they just have a delusional perception of situations. I'll give you an example. They may look out the window every morning to look at the cute little kitten that visits every day. They might even hear it meowing. There's nothing inherently dangerous about that. Except, the kitten doesn't actually exist. There's no shadow, reflection, shrub or whatever to be misinterpreted. It's just not there. They may not even question or mention their observation because, in their mind, it's just a kitten outside the window. It's not like a dream. They believe it's really there. They have trouble discerning what is real and what is not. This is simply an anecdotal observation of my own experience. Beyond that, I really know very little about the subject. Be as understanding and supportive as you can and try to gently steer them away from dangerous behaviors. Don't be insistent that you're right and they're wrong. That only frustrates the situation. edit: This is not to be confused with pareidolia (seeing clouds that look like faces, etc.), which is a perfectly normal occurrence.

Yeah, that's my desire, as well.

René Girard has entered the chat. "Man is the creature who does not know what to desire, and he turns to others in order to make up his mind. We desire what others desire because we imitate their desires.

When I was in FellowLaborers, I worked in a factory that made that. Be concerned. Be very concerned... lol.

freeze dried and vacuum packed.

It was part of Oral Roberts' "Fourth Man" sermon. If you want to skip to it, it's found at 37:36

Why would I need to ask anyone? I'm a big boy now and expected to form my own opinions.

It seems to me, it's you who has dodged the challenge to look beyond to see more clearly. Does the positive stuff, as scant as it was, negate the negative stuff? Nevermind, I'm pretty sure in your mind it does.

There's a bitterness torch? Why hasn't someone told me?

Well, duh. You ask: "The Teacher" P.O. Box 347 Nude Knockoff, Ahia.

Ya know, for a guy who doesn't even know me, you sure seem to think you know a lot about me.

Strawman. My personal beliefs are not the issue here.

That's Ok, you probably just weren't paying attention.

Exactly. As long as we master the collaterals, everything will be fine.

Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a chocolate chip cookie, will give him an oatmeal instead?

Wierwille spoke of Jesus's Bar Mitzva as being unique because of his perceived illegitimacy. No such custom appears in the Bible. Furthermore, the Bar Mitzva originated in the 14th century CE. Does this glaring error negate the veracity of the collaterals? For some people, it apparently does not. God must have told Wierwille to intentionally include this error.

"The epistles do not tell us how God picks people for super special jobs." The Bible offers no instructions on small engine repair, either.

...as we were heard to proclaim, "Someday I'll be a REAL boy!"

It was the ancient tongue of the Gibberish people, who spoke a language known as Jibber-Jabber.

What was it that convinced you?

For those who have ears to hear.

Yo, Mike Nobody really gives a crap that you can't handle the truth.