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My son is a vegetarian. It can be a real challenge finding things he can eat when he's home.

You're probably right, Sudo. I was just going by what my Grandma said. I don't think she read The Bible very much.

Just make sure your underwear are clean.

---Billy Joe RoyalHow's 'bout another one? (In other words .....free post)

It sounds much more appetizing than the chicken-noodle soup sandwiches my kid sister used to make.

I had a dog, a long time ago, that I named after this song. He was sort of a Shepherd mix and had a tan coat, the color of barley. Went to see Traffic 3 times and each one of them was a canceled show. Bummer.

Once there was a way to get back homeward.

-----CCRWhen I call you up, your line's engaged.

This is a text book example of how they operated, Doc. You have my sympathy. The "study buddy" thing you referred to is call undershepherding. They even had a class that taught how to do this. It was called Witnessing and Undershepherding (The W&U Class). For me, the realization came in session 5 when I discovered, by accident, my "study buddy" was actually "engaged" to the class instructor. By then it was too late for me. I was hooked. I stuck around for the better part of the next 20 years. My bad.

Have you ever noticed how hard it is to make things come to pass with positive believing? Now, negative believing, on the other hand, is a piece of cake. Let one little fear creep into your mind and BOOM!, you own it, baby. What's up with that?

I said: quote: Simply follow the recipe and the "law" will guarantee a perfectly baked cake. To which you replied: VP didn't use those exact words, but if it was so obvious to you that THAT was the message ............................................................... Page 38/PFAL "If a person is afraid of not being able to hold his job, do you know what will happen? He will lose it. If one is afraid of a disease, he will manifest that disease because the law is that what one believes (in this case, what one negatively believes), he is going to receive.................The law of negative and positive believing works for both Christian and non-Christian. When we believe, we receive the results of our believing regardless of who or what we are." ................................................................ I think we all (hopefully) realize by now that this is simply not true. Furthermore, Wierwille stressed that any results that might be realized were not facilitated by the intervention of God, but, rather, by virtue of this being some sort of immutable "law", like gravity. For instance, we have the example of the little boy who was struck and killed by a car because of the fear (negative believing) in his mother's heart. Where does God fit into this scenario? According to the "law of believing", as stated by Wierwille, God was not necessary for this event to happen. The mother merely had to harbor fear.(ie: believe it was going to happen) And, according to Wierwille's definition of this so-called "law of believing", the incident was inevitable and unavoidable. For decades, J.L taught that the law of believing is true. Now, he has done an about face and is teaching that it's false. ........................................... "why didn't you get suspicious when it didn't work?" Are you acknowledging by this, then, that, in fact, it didn't work?

The old "date and switch" routine. Fairly standard M.O. for The Way, back in the "good ol' days".

That may be what you think you heard VP teach but, it doesn't reflect the reality of what he taught in PFAL. "Works for saint and sinner alike" is what he said. No intervention from God required. Simply follow the recipe and the "law" will guarantee a perfectly baked cake. Don't even get me started on the camera analogy.

........................................................... How does this explain the relevance of the post I inquired about? (#103) edit This, incidentally, is an Ad Hominem: "Not from the soot colored glasses you look through." (post #106) (It doesn't strengthen your position, in case you haven't noticed.)

Thanks, Socks.

It's hard to think about Da Gangstah without remembering Da Buffalo....Now that was one helluva connection... it lasted almost 40 years.... .

Connection....That's pretty much all most people are really looking for....in my opinion, anyhow.

Sometimes music is the only way we know to try to express what we're feeling..... Well, at least for me.....and then ya gotta hope somebody connects the dots.