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Well, that's what you get for asking a Boy Scout while he's helping a little old lady cross the street.

It's cosmic voodoo! BwaaHaha!

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The Way was nothing more than another one of thousands of small time, cult-like organizations. PFAL was simply a pyramid scheme, based on the Word-Faith Movement. It's content was highly plagiarized and filled with academic inaccuracies. Can we get back on topic now?

Just felt like that needed to be repeated.

Wow! They nailed him pretty good. Wonder where he will get the funds for restitution.

Go to my post and click on the arrow to the left of "potato". That will take you to the beginning of the thread.

That's a total strawman, John. No one said anything at all about taking your family out to a movie. Don't you ever get tired of the same old diversional song and dance?

Oh, that's good news. I thought the emphasis was on "wind".

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You seem to be the one doing all the arguing. This is a discussion forum, not a platform for your derailing and bully tactics. Either you want to discuss things in a logical, civil manner or you don't. It's your call.

John, you've been here for 11 years now. Are you expecting me to believe that in those 11 years you haven't realized most of Wierwille's work was plagiarized? There are whole sections of RTHST that are virtual word-for-word copies of previously existing material. Wierwille did not write it. He copied it and changed a few words, changed some of the phrasing around. That's plagiarism. There is 11 years of hard core, indisputable evidence of that here on the GSC threads. Your speaking in tongues has no relevance to that, nor does the topic of evolution. If you want to continue discussing those topics, which are a diversion from the subject of the thread, I suggest you start your own thread and stop trying to derail this one.

Fold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Ydq-NU2Iw&feature=related

The Rescue Type of Work: Non-dramatic literary work Registration Number / Date: TX0000702166 / 1981-05-28 Date of Publication: November 10, 1980 Date of Creation: 1980 Title: The Rescue / by Dennis McGee. Edition: 1st ed. Imprint: New York : Vantage Press, c1980. Description: l98 p. Copyright Claimant: Dennis McGee Names: Dennis McGee 1953- SOURCE

I don't think that verse can be interpreted literally. If it could, you would never get sick in the first place (were = past tense)

John PFAL was a mishmash of plagiarized works. That's not an opinion. That's a fact. In addition, much of what was presented in PFAL, that many have considered to be true, has subsequently been proven to be misinformation, based on faulty "research". In other words, the WOW program was nothing more than a sales campaign for a defective product. Again, that's not an opinion, it's a fact. In no way is that meant to denigrate participants of the program. We all got duped on one level or another. If God is real, and everything His word says He is, He certainly wouldn't need a hodgepodge class like PFAL to accomplish salvation, now would He?.

Linda I see your point. This is what I was specifically referring to: "..... he got witnessed to in a convenience store by a white girl. He came to a fellowship and after the teaching was over he raved and said he'd been looking for something like this his whole life. He went on to become a branch leader." Joining a cult and subsequently becoming a leader in it is not the same thing as "deliverance". Sorry I didn't make that clearer.

So, the guy escapes one cult, only to be snatched up by another. Sorry, John, I'm not seeing any "deliverance" in that.

Yes, but, do any of these opinions predate the filming of PFAL in 1967? Maybe they do. And were they available for perusal by Wierwille? I don't really know. I am curious, though. Edit: The relevant point for me, though, is that this whole concept, whether intentionally or unintentionally, sowed the seeds of a martyrdom mentality..... "Sure I'm driving a WOW-mobile and living on Beanie-Weenies, but, look at what Paul endured for The Word."

Do you remember how, in the PFAL class, Wierwille said something to the effect that people have even said Paul's Thorn was sexual addiction? Really?? People have said this? Admittedly, I knew very little about the Bible before taking PFAL, but, is this really something anyone here has ever heard anywhere else besides PFAL? Or, was Wierwille obviating, in case someone might become suspicious of his own weaknesses? I think this whole "people" angle was simply part of the indoctrination process that established a "them vs. us" mentality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ua-wUGFFlM

The following article was posted on another site I visit. It has nothing to do with The Way in a direct sense. Somehow, though, it reminded me of how we used to "manipulate" scripture to make it say what we wanted it to say and look the way we wanted it to look. Opinions welcomed Photoshop and Photography: When Is It Real?