waysider

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-c7ir1K_1Q (audio only)

Why does this remind me of something my mother used to say about jumping off of a bridge?

I don't think either of those two are currently being used very much.

You really just don't "get it", do you, John? Sad.....Very sad.

Soul searcher This is one of the foundational scriptures Wierwille used in his book Are The Dead Alive Now?, which is sometimes referred to here as ADAN. Wierwille, as you may have already guessed, is not really the author of this "book". It's actually a cobbling together of two shorter works by one of the authors from whom VPW was fond of borrowing. There is lots more on GSC regarding that aspect if it interests you. Anyhow, it's a subject that has been called "soul sleep" by many people outside of The Way. Within The Way, it gave a whole array of special significance to speaking in tongues. For instance, someone's death may be commented on as such: "He's fallen asleep but we'll meet again at the gathering together. I'm sure of this because I heard him speak in tongues" Here is an excerpt from page 23/24 of ADAN. Because there is no consciousness in death, there is no awareness of time for the dead person. Thus, the moment of a man's death becomes, in a sense of time for him, the moment of the return of Christ. But, within the dimension of time, the moment of a man's death is neither his gathering together unto Christ nor his resurrection. In a sense of time he does not go immediately to Heaven, but descends into gravedom, sheol. The book, itself, is poorly written and does not represent any kind of legitimate research. But, there it is if you feel like it is something you want to look at.

Personally, I think you have to do a "hard boot". I look around on facebook and such places and see people who haven't changed one single thing about the way they think or act in the last 35-40 years except that they don't go to Twig anymore...or, at least, not a TWI Twig.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1zVaJ5WS7Y&feature=fvwrel if this should end tomorrow all our best laid plans and all our typical fears am I running out of lifetimes this is not the first time something ends in just tears but tomorrow I can't imagine how am I supposed to know what's yet to go down ? is there only one religion the kind that whispers when nobody comes around ? the world can wait the world can wait I wanna drink the water from your well I wanna tell you things i'll never tell the world can wait the world can wait i'm wide awake and the world can wait I want to feel and then some I have five senses I need thousands more at least every day a page of paper every night a photograph a moveable feast so fade to black and white now roll the movie of my life inside of my head 'cause like all true believers I am truly skeptical of all that I have said the world can wait the world can wait I wanna drink the water from your well I wanna tell you things i'll never tell the world can wait the world can wait i'm wide awake and the world can wait haven't I said enough haven't I said far too much haven't we done enough haven't we done far too much

They seek him here, they seek him there. His clothes are loud but never square.

What was always at stake was the possibility that someone might discover Wierwille's version of what comprised "the word" was fraudulent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azVqekQBK8g Africa....Toto

"Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat."....oops, that was Bullwinkle J. Moose, not Rocket J. Squirrel.

Very well, then.

Something else to consider: The same guy who said, "The integrity of 'the word' is always at stake!" also said "It's still 'the word', even if NOBODY believes it!" How does one reconcile those two statements? If something retains its integrity, it remains intact. If it can remain intact, even when no one believes it, how can its integrity be in jeopardy?

None of this has the least bit to do with answering the question. If "the word" is everything it declares itself to be in Proverbs and Psalms, how can its integrity possibly be "always at stake"? It really doesn't matter who asks the question or what their beliefs are, there should be a consistant answer.

So, then, how/why is it "always at stake"? Edit: By the way, Johnny, whether I care or not does nothing to invalidate the question.

Yes, indeed.

Very Close.

People say I'm the life of the party, 'cause I tell a joke or two.

John, you've managed to change the subject again. No one is talking about God threatening them. They are talking about the threatening that took place within the organization. You seemed to understand this point in post #24. Is there something I can do to help you regain your focus?

Dirty Laundry----Don Henley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bBWBG9r2o