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Thanks, Twinky. Yes, there is much more they could be teaching. Not much of it is found in their classes and reading materials, though. And, of course, if you ever ventured beyond the prescribed doctrine in your presentation, chastisement was imminent.

Some clarification is in order. When I ask, "What's left to teach?", I mean specifically from the body of various information and teachings we used to draw from. I'm sure there is a multitude of subject matter still waiting to be taught, but that's not the material I'm referring to here.

Josef Mengele was a real doctor. Doctorates aren't always what they're cracked up to be. I'm just sayin'

That entire pamphlet is based on erroneous interpretation. Why teach any of it? Oh, yeah, now I remember.....you have to give so God can spit at you. (Per LCM)

After reading through "Actual Errors in PFAL" again, I found myself wondering...what's left for them to teach? So many of the things that held us spellbound, like 4 crucified, lambano/dechomai, apistia/apathia, cry of triumph, throughly/thoroughly, the "law" of believing, and on and on have been shown to have been based on shoddy "research". Then, you add to that the doctrinal errors, which are more subjective in interpretation, and you have to wonder......What the heck does The Way and its offshoots have left to teach? If I went to a TWIG tonight, what would I expect to hear?

I was not at that meeting, but heard those exact points covered at another meeting. (probably in the late 1970s)

John There is no need for sarcasm and name calling. I asked you politely to refrain from meta-discussion. If you find that to be too much of a burden and/or find these discussions so unpleasant, why do you continue to participate? (Please respond to that question (if you feel you must) in the "soapbox" thread that Twinky has set up for you.)

I re-read both posts, John. I don't see anything about the way JB posted that changed the essence of your post. In fact, by trimming down your statement, he was able to address that particular point, specifically. You might learn well from that and adapt a similar technique yourself, instead of banging quotes into each other like so many runaway shopping carts in a crowded food market parking lot. However, this whole discourse involving the posts in question is nothing more than meta-discussion. (a discussion of the discussion, itself, rather than a discussion of the topic at hand.) In other words, you have driven this topic off course, just like you do with any other topic that threatens to tarnish the sacred image of VP (You know he wasn't a "Dr.", don't you?) Wierwille. Please stay "on the same page".

He called us his "kids". Well, I guess that's not so much outrageous as disgusting.

Makes me wonder if there are still people who believe Jim Jones was right. Scary,huh?

You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain.

It's not at all off topic, Jerry. Why not? Because in PFAL, Wierwille presented himself as someone who was capable of delivering a greater collective body of knowledge, regarding the Bible, than anyone had been able to do for the last 2,000 years. In view of the wholesale inaccuracy of much of what he presented, I would classify his claim as "outrageous".

Every Little Thing She Does is Magic----Police

FULL SCREEN ALERT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhzBrxE75hc

"You know what killed that little boy? Fear, in the heart of his mother."

Well, Doctor said......"Cancer is a devil spirit." Yet, he, his brother Harry and his son Don all died from cancer. Anybody ever figure that one out?

"like avoiding spraying Ant Spray in my eyes instead of at the ants." I hate when that happens.

Let me see if I understand what you're saying. You have been going to this fellowship for 6 1/2 years and, during that time, you have revealed, to the female attendees, that Wierwille had a history of giving date-rape drugs to female believers so he could subsequently have illicit sex with them......and no one slapped you when you told them you condoned his behavior.... Is that correct? edit....Because you take exception to VP's character being called into question, let's approach it from a different angle. During those 6 1/2 years, how many of the actual errors in PFAL have you collectively discussed as a group?...things like dechomai/lambano...throughly/thoroughly....4 crucified...the cry of triumph....Nice/Nicea...."All the women in the kingdom belong to the king."...Bar Mitzva in OT times non-existent, the magical "law" of believing.....etc., etc. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/editorial/editorial-items/actual-errors-in-power-for-abundant-living.html What sort of reactions did you observe to these revelations?

Is that anything like "Yo Mama!"?

The amazing Mr. Norton Buffalo!! (May he rest in peace.)

He certainly was a compassionate fellow, wasn't he? :wacko:

"The Holocaust didn't really happen." Now that, my friends, is outrageous.

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