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I think The Brothers Karamozov might be a good choice. "Dostoyevsky intended it to be the first part in an epic story titled The Life of a Great Sinner, but he died less than four months after its publication."

I kinda thought Catcher in the Rye was pretty good. “Don’t ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody.”...Holden Caulfield

Excie I think he probably knows how to use the quote feature but, chooses not to because it lends an element of designed confusion to his posts. That's just my opinion.

WW The point I was addressing was simply this: The statement was made that it's the only belief system involving resurrection of the main character and that this is what sets it apart from all others. Whether any or all of the resurrections actually happened is totally irrelevant to my point.It is NOT the only belief system that focuses on this concept as a major point of doctrine. For what it's worth, I heard Wierwille teach on this in some time and place I can no longer remember. He acknowledged this was true and said all of the other predated examples were counterfeits, arranged by the adversary to dilute the significance of the mystery when and where it would eventually be revealed. It made sense at the time. Now, years later, it just sounds like some kind of mumbo-jumbo, rationalized, concocted attempt to offer an explanation of something for which he really had no honest explanation. edit: Ever notice how so many things that weren't understood were explained away as being "counterfeit"?

This is not completely accurate. HERE HERE

No, it's not but, Yes it is. FREE POST!!!!!

Nope. You do, however, have to click my link and drink in the testimony of Mr. McKinley Morganfield.

Incrementalism had a daily aspect as well. You get up at 5:00 or 5:30, do this, do that, a bunch of something else, lots of nothing worthwhile, go to this or that meeting or class, get chewed out for always being wrong and.... BOOM!...it's midnight, lights out, get up and do it all again tomorrow in unexplainable, inconsequential, incongruous, incremental chunks of time. There was no course of study or meaningful academic pursuit involved with FellowLaborers, just more and more incremental indoctrination.

Non-informed consent. This is an element that is frequently ignored by people who say things such as "No one held a gun to your head." Yes, we made our own decisions ......but sometimes those decisions were based on erroneous and/or deceptive information. Here's a simple example: I go to buy a used car. Part of my decision to buy it is based on the mileage. Unknown to me, the seller has illegally rolled back the odometer. Sure, the decision to buy it was mine but, it was based on flawed information..... Don't let the "seller" off the hook.

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"Summer's gone. We're all a bit older now"

OK....I'll segue back onto the topic :P Really, Ham? Walmart? That place is filled with boxes. And, speaking of boxes .... Religion, at least to me, just seems like a way to put God in a box....a neat, little, precisely measured and defined box. Can you really put God in a box? I don't know. I thought He was supposed to be limitless and all that jazz. The Way tried to put God in a box. How did that work out for them?

If they're zombie bakers, they knead your brains.

If you wear red tonight, remember what I said tonight.

What a radical concept!!

Timeless music...Always such a pleasure to hear it again Thanks

So, then, you don't even know the difference between the two but, you know how "they" all think. Interesting. JESUITS

John, you're addressing a point that hasn't been raised. As you well know, this is commonly called a "straw man argument". You do this too frequently for me to believe it's unintentional. If you wish to have a meta-discussion of this practice, please do so on your Soap Box thread. Otherwise, let's get back to topic, shall we?

Exactly, Steve. How do we know these other groups (broad paintbrush?) were/are as closed minded as TWI portrayed them? Oh, I forgot, TWI told us so.

People sacrificed like CRAZY to promote PFAL.......And now it's in mothballs. Go figure.

Really, John? Education and religion are at odds? Why, then, do you suppose there are still credible institutions offering doctorate programs in theology?

No, actually, by your accepting said doctrine, it is you who is conceding there is a devil spirit behind Wierwille's statue.