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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhNTFzmRw0

It can't be done within the confines of a system that requires everything to fit together without contradiction.

WHO'S SORRY NOW? Words, Bert Kalmar and Harry Ruby. Music, Ted Snyder. New York: Waterson, Berlin & Snyder Co., © 1923. VERSE: You smiled when we parted. It hurt me somehow. I thought there was nothing worthwhile. The tables are turning and you're crying now, While I am just learning to smile. CHORUS: Who's sorry now? Who's sorry now? Whose heart is aching for breaking each vow? Who's sad and blue? Who's crying too, Just like I cried over you? Right to the end, Just like a friend, I tried to warn you somehow. You had your way. Now you must pay. I'm glad that you're sorry now. SPOKEN: You will never know the pain you brought to me When I realized that it was not to be. For each hour of gladness that I spent with you, There were days of sadness when you proved untrue. Every single word you told me, I believed. You knew love was blind and that's why you deceived. How you took advantage of my faith and trust All my tender hopes you trampled in the dust. Now that it's all over, I'm so glad that we're through. I'm the one who's happy. You're the one who's blue. You will count the hours spent in vain regret While your heart is breaking, trying to forget. Now you know it doesn't pay to play with fate. You have learned your lesson just a bit too late. SUNG: I'm glad that you're sorry now.

...and refreshments....don't forget the refreshments....

The main thing you need to find out is whether or not there will be refreshments.

What a fellow's hip What a joydy vine.... 'cmon..Sing with me!

Our center of reference was always PFAL, et al.. Yes, we SAID it was the Bible but, it was really what PFAL told us the Bible said. Take, for example, the scripture being dealt with currently in the "The poor you have always with you." thread. Any apparent contradiction must be resolved using criteria set forth in the PFAL class or its companion classes/materials if it's going to coincide with the general tenets of TWI.. (Not written to us, different administration, mystery not yet revealed, spirit "in" us not yet available, yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah.)

Wouldn't it be nice if, suddenly, it became acceptable to simply say "I don't know."?

I haven't been to a twig in years. I'm willing to bet, though, that any " opening the Bible and studying" that's done will be heavily tempered with Way doctrine. (ie: "What does The Blue Book say?")

Well, at least there will be free refreshments, as long as you don't mind drinking your coffee out of one of these.

They won't skin you alive and eat you or anything like that. Your questions will be welcomed.....as long as you agree with their answers. Really, though, I don't foresee how you would benefit from the experience. You have to remember that they are essentially a multi-level-marketing type organization. The MLM concept is what fuels the machine so, I would think they would probably be nice to you and make you feel welcome. We used to call it love bombing. I suppose, after all these years, they have probably refined that technique to make it less obvious, though. Also, I doubt that you'll be exposed to the underbelly of the beast at the local level. That generally doesn't happen until you make a commitment and start rising up through the ranks. I personally never saw the dark side until I entered an in-residence training program. Ultimately, no one can tell you whether you should do this or not. Good luck, whatever choice you decide to make.

(The butter wouldn't melt so I put it in the pie.)

A most excellent premise, my furry friend. Of course, you have to get past the innerrancy problem and question whether Paul's words hold water before you can give any serious consideration to such theories. But, remember, Eve pondered life's questions in a similar manner and got her little heiny spanked for it, ya know? Or, at least that's what Mr. Wierwille taught in PLAF (The Wonder Class). :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIq_tRKfO4I&NR=1

I think that might fall under "You reap what you sow.".

I talked to my local "leadershi t" about that once. He told me it's because "it has to build". (Whatever that means.)

A little background FYI for people who were never in The Way: Wierwille taught that, once you gain some spiritual maturity (whatever the hell that is), you will begin to see that when the Bible talks about adultery, it is really talking about "spiritual adultery", not the usual physical kind, as defined by millions of people the world over for thousands of years. This is why the Trinity was conidered such a big issue in The Way. Wierwille asserted that belief in the Trinity was a form of idolatry and, thus, an example of spiritual adultery....And all you really need to do to gain this spiritual maturity is to keep reading the PFAL materials, renew your mind to The Word (as defined by VPW) and speak in tongues as much and as often as you can. edit....and there are quite a few people, still riding that same old train, hoping for the day when it finally pulls into the station.

I've seen people on face book, who are still caught up in the Veepster's mystique, pushing the same old "blue book" mumbo jumbo that used to captivate us, almost word for word, like it's some kind of profound wisdom or magic elixir they're compelled to share with the heathen masses...

Happy Halloween!

After taking PFAL, we thought that we knew that we knew that we knew. In reality, we knew far too little about a multitude of subjects and issues. That proved to be dangerous for many of us.