waysider
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"Closed due to 3 years of inactivity." Well, boy howdy!, if you can't think of anything "positive" to say about an organization in 3 years, maybe you really SHOULD turn out the lights and lock the doors.
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There's a clue in the album cover I posted but you have to listen for it.
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Yeah, but won't the bogey man gitcha if you leave?
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I had a similar experience, hitch hiking home from twig, one night. Only, instead of asking him about Sunday school, I told him I was gonna smash his skull in with a crowbar if he didn't back off. Hmmmmm...On second thought, I guess it really wasn't all that similar.
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I understand the point of the needle analogy but I can't completely agree. With the needles, you have an active role in taking the child to receive the treatments. With the idiom of permission, God doesn't actively do anything. That's the crucial point. He doesn't do anything, He simply permits it. Leave da one true houseboat and God will "permit" the devil to have his way with you.
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It was really just a sales job, wasn't it? We were like the Al Bundy of the Bible world. We sold Bible classes at the mall and Al sold shoes.
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I hated when you had to take a newbie out and show him the ropes. Like being involved with The Way longer than any person with a sane mind ought to be involved with it made you some kinda expert or something. They're looking to you for answers like you've got your hand in the cookie jar or bread box or candy drawer or whatever that stupid analogy was. Meanwhile, you're thinking, "Hell, I don't know why the fish aren't biting. Maybe I should have brought my stationary with me."
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Mostly, witnessing just sucked. Except, sometimes you would present "the green card" and be launched into a conversation that went like this: ""but..but this is a bag of SH!T!" And you would respond with something like,"But its really GOOD sh!t Mrs. Johnson!" ... What's the word?....Hot Dog!
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We gotta hold forph da werd! If we let it progress naturally, it would be...you know...natural. Can't have that. Everything gots ta be spirchal.
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Is that what is meant by, "the letter of the law"? New International Version (©1984) Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting.
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And then there was the grand daddy of them all (IMO), when in Christian Family and Sex, he claimed that God revealed to him the true nature of the original sin but he had no scripture to prove it.... soooooo, we would "just have to trust me (him) on this."
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I recall, when I was pretty new in da werd, my branch leader took me out to a bar to show me how to witness. (We were both of drinking age). We somehow managed to find ourselves occupying a table with two lovely young ladies. The conversation progressed to the word "believing". My branch leader used it as a spingboard to launch into a dissertation on how believing is a verb and a verb connotes action. Well, I don't know about your part of the world but in my part of the world, "action" has a rather...."unique" meaning. I wish I had a video or something showing how hard he backpeddaled to redefine his meaning when he suddenly realized his faux pas....."What I mean is...That is to say...uh, uh, uh..."
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I think the one at HQ wasn't wearing a filter.. came out of packs of Kool shorts.
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Isn't that the gist of everything he supposedly did? No way to prove or disprove...how convenient.
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She's Just My Style.....Gary Lewis and The Playboys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ntCcf9Ewk Baby, baby As you stand holding me Whispering how much you care A thousand violins fill the air
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I remember this incident being cited in PLAF (The Wonder Class). Wierwille used this technique frequently.....belittling others to make himself look good. And, he was very good at making ambiguous statements and allowing you to draw your own conclusion, which in reality, was actually a conclusion he was coaching you to draw. In this case, the conclusion was that he had some sort of great knowledge of the "manifestations".(if I remember correctly.)
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Oh, sure. It comes with a "double your money back" guarantee.
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It will all come together for you when you take The Advanced Class. P.S. (You probably need to speak in tongues more and get your believing up.)
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I still think VP was blowing hot air when he tried to make everything have a second tier, spiritual meaning. "Oh, sure, it says 'Thou shalt not kill' but what it REALLY means is....." Whatever happened to means what it says and says what it means?
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I never saw any hearts...black OR white. Same thing with ministering. Put your hand on their shoulder and.....nuttin' Oh, wait, my leg hurts. Yeah, that's it. "God, thank you for healing their Polio, right now...." Uh Huh.
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Oh, my!
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I don't remember where I heard it but it must have been before it was detailed in the book because I remember going to the county fair in the early 1970s and trying to do the same thing to some Bha'i's who had a booth there. We also tried to see if they had black or white hearts.
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If I remember correctly, Wierwille said something to the effect that they stood outside the fortune teller's tent all day and prayed/believed for her to leave. Sure enough, she eventually packed up and left. It's a good thing she did, too. It's a known fact that business drops off drastically after closing time.
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That's because you've discovered its true usefulness. (snicker)