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Maybe they just OD'd on .

I dunno. FellowLaborers was pretty small. There were only 50 of us at any given time. So, you couldn't really opt out of participation in ANYTHING, especially group singing. If you did, you'd be mighty conspicuous. Not good in a group that's driven by peer pressure. And, you always had to act like you were excited about it. "If I act excited, I'll be excited." Remember that stuff? We sang Roll Away after EVERY group meal, complete with hand motions and feigned enthusiasm. It's a 2 year program. Put a fresh battery in your calculator and do the math. :o

Martindale's just a handy fall guy. The Way's problems started before he was even born.

I think this happens in all walks of life. People say they want your honest opinion. When you give it to them and it doesn't agree with their own, their "interest" quickly fades. I suppose, in some way, they ask you because they are seeking to have their own opinion validated.

PFAL pg. 17,18 "....that morning I dropped next to my chair and I asked God to forgive me. I promised the Father that if He would forgive me,as long as I lived I would never preach a negative sermon, I would never condemn anybody." .................................................................. He wasn't very good at keeping promises, was he?

"waiting endlessly and in vain" Yes, that sounds about right.

Didn't Wierdwilly say, in the Piffle class, that you could use his special "keys" to solve apparent contradictions? So, which keys can you use to solve this one?....used before, scripture build-up, to whom addressed, correct administration?

I never understood the concept of spirits "attaching" themselves to an object. If they're spirits, they should be able to move about, unencumbered, no? Same thing with these T.V. shows where somebody tears down a brick wall and releases a tormented spirit that's been trapped there for centuries. Even Casper could fly right through brick walls.... and he was just a cartoon. :blink:

Please tell me I'm not the only one who's ever wondered about the obvious scriptural contradiction this subject presents. According to scripture, you're not supposed to be able to see spirits because they have no physical attributes. Angels are spirits, right? Well, another place in the scriptures says you could meet an angel and not be aware they are not human. How does one reconcile the incongruity?

Nothing personal but, I think I've heard enough conspiracy theories to last a lifetime.

Poly-rhythmic music defies the idea of mathematical exactness.....but it works.

Ahhhhh! But there's a caveat. The Way Tree ©1974 Each twig is to be self supporting, self propagating and self governing in cooperation with its respective Branch as each Branch is to its respective Limb, as each Limb is to its respective Trunk, as each Trunk is to the Root of The Way. (Bold font and resizing added) ............................ So, you see, it actually says the opposite of what we thought it said. The Twig is ultimately controlled by The Root. It was never intended to be "self" supporting, propagating or governing at all.

What if you had ?!

Maybe there was a misprint and it was really supposed to be called Power For Aberrant Living.

If 6 was 9, it would be music to my ears. Heh!

Well, what do you expect from a discipline that's convinced pie are square? Sheesh!

PFAL....pg. 3 ........In contrast to these Christian people, I could see that the secular world of non-Christians were manifesting a more abundant life than were members of the Church. .................................... So, then, remind me again why WE needed a class but they didn't. :wacko:

Kids songs are fine......for kids.

As I mentioned on another thread recently, when there was a large "healing event" at ROA (1973?), Wierwille did not participate. Instead, he stood on stage, behind the podium, and jabbered away into the microphone. Even though I was supposed to participate in that service ("ALL advanced class grads report to the front of the stage, immediately."), I sat it out and observed from the audience. All I witnessed was the usual "ministering" mumbo-jumbo that had become so common but, on a much larger scale. I did not see anything producing miracles, wonders, healings or any such thing...and I was in a much better position to observe than the participants. As for abundant life: It was clearly promoted, at the outset of PFAL, as being material, even though the principle scripture being utilized (John 10:10) was used out of context. Later, when it became apparent there was error in the teaching, the default explanation was that it was really spiritual. If you didn't understand that, it was your own fault for not believing, not renewing your mind, not speaking in tongues enough, not taking all the available classes, not stringing the chairs precisely enough, not using the correct ratio of yesterday's coffee to stretch the current batch, etc, and so on and so forth.

Thanks for everything you do, Mr. P.!

Well, you probably know, there is a poster who hasn't been here for a while, who seems to think that was the purpose of PFAL.... God-breathed and all that sort of thing.

My mom called it "happy noise".

Heh! Like a letter of reference from the devil!

The Hayflick Limit has nothing to do with contaminated gene pools, dominant/recessive traits, evil behavior or any such thing. It's simply the result of an inherent characteristic of human DNA. Cells have a finite number of times they can reproduce. When they reach that limit, they die. Think of it as being like a battery that has a predetermined number of recharges assigned to it. THIS article, though rather basic, offers some insight into the process.

......and when I opened my eyes, there was snow on the levee and it completely covered all the pirogues. ................Hallelujah!.................