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Did anybody ask for one?

When I was in high school, 50+ years ago, everyone had to choose a language elective. I chose Spanish and stuck with that throughout high school. I never became fluent, but I was pretty good at understanding conversations around me. (There are so many variations spoken throughout the world.) I worked, for a while, with a guy who grew up in Spain and even he ran into problems translating when someone joined our crew from Mexico or Central America. Mostly, the problems involved variations in vocabulary. In college, I tried my hand at ASL. My success was abysmal. All props to those amazing individuals who can render translation on the fly. More recently, I spent several years working beside someone who was born and raised in S. Korea. I am in awe of how well she has been able to grasp the vocabulary and grammatical nuances of English. She still struggles with pronunciation and this is totally understandable. Korean has sounds that don't exist in English and English has sounds that don't exist in Korean. I started learning Korean as somewhat of a friendly challenge. My progress has been...let's just say ... slow. My chances of ever becoming fluent are about as good as my chances of pitching a no-hitter in the World Series. But that's OK. Learning about the food, the history, the culture, the day-to-day lifestyle has been just as rewarding as learning the language itself. It's really opened my eyes to how translation is so much more than trading "this" word for "that" word. HERE is an interesting link that talks about how the U.S. government trains employees in foreign languages.

The Way promulgated doctrinal beliefs that lead us to have an inordinate reverence for the book, itself. Or, in some cases, a reverence of the collaterals, as well.

"The Bible is the revealed word of God.">>>> "It's The Word, The Word and nothing but the Word." I mean, it's not hard to do the math. David said "thou has magnified thy Word above all thy name." 1.) It was David, not God, who made the declaration. 2.) There was no "Bible" when he said it.

What if we called it unreasonably excessive obsession? Would that make it more palatable?

HERE it is.

How about a dragon, instead?

I think you may have mentioned that. On the occasions when you speak in Spanish, do you have to make a conscious effort to think "differently"?

But if the messenger delivers a flawed message... Well, you do the math.

Is there anyone here who speaks more than one language or is in the process of learning? Why, how, where, when, etc. This is not a survey, just an invitation to a general discussion, sparked by recent discussions of Bible research and translations. I have no idea where it might lead, but it doesn't necessarily have to be related to TWI or the previous discussion.

You mean like this one?

How would you know if you haven't read her book?

But you ARE in love with the collaterals, which is bibliolotry.

Did he, though? Much of what he expounded had been passed down through oral tradition.

None Of Us Are Free

If the leotard fits, you must do the splits.

So, then, SIT is basically like freestyle dancing but with sounds instead of movement.

What's an earfoam?

Tread lightly, the ice is thin in spots.

You can use earbuds with a Walkman? Who Knew?

This... From a person who apparently does not understand the concept of improvisation or character immersion.

For the most part, this discussion has been an exercise in futility. The issue is not "black/white, yes/no, either/or" in essence. The real question is what potion and how much of our decision making is influenced by conditioning as opposed to what portion and how much is governed by conscious decision. Obviously, there are infinite combinations possible.

It seems you have either forgotten the primary theme or weren't paying close attention the first time you read it. I spent 20 years studying the Cliff Notes.

scriptural reference?

Where do I even begin?