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I think his act was along the lines of Will Rogers or Mark Twain...act like a bumpkin while spewing "wisdom".

It's a good thing this site doesn't have "smell-o-vision". The stench of bull crap would be overwhelming.

This is not citation by any stretch of the imagination. This is simply Wierwille dropping names. It's a common sales technique, designed to instill a sense of credibility and confidence. Plus, it's an appeal to authority. Have you ever examined the history of any of these men who were named? I'm not sure I'd ever let you wash my windows, Mike. You don't seem to know up from down or in from out. Wierwille placing Nicaea in France is not a typo, a proofreaders error or a mistranslation. It a factual error. More importantly, it's a factual error in material you claim was given by divine revelation, material that, at the very minimum, should be devoid of factual error. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to pretend it's anything else.

Maybe THIS will help.

Are you telling me you don't know Nicaea was in what is now modern day Turkey?

I'm not sure why you quoted me, as your response has nothing to do with answering my question.

Simple question ( not Bible related): Where was Nicaea?

It is a big deal. You said it was God Breathed. This is not a printing error, as you claim. It's evidence the writing is not divinely inspired.

Refresh my memory.

Was it or was it not an actual error in PFAL? A simple yes or no would be sufficient.

The PFAL book is what brought me here. I used to lend it out all the time but it never seemed to come back. Thus, I would seek out replacements.I came here to see how I could get a replacement. Belle kindly offered to gift me her copy but by that time I had rad a bit of this site's contents and decided to decline the offer.

What's that you say? There was an error?

Perhaps I've been under a mistaken impression. I've always thought that "the orange book" refers to PFAL. Anyway, it has me wondering. If someone does write the book on Wierwille's legacy, what color will it be? Will Christ be carrying it in his left hand when he returns?

The orange book is Power For Abundant Living.

The ecumenical council held in France is known as The Council of Lyon.

Time is of the utmost importance so I'll be brief. Where was the Council of Nicaea held?

Mike, if you will take a bit of your busy time to simply look at some of the actual errors in PFAL, you will find that we're not talking about confirmation bias. These are factual errors that are not subject to opinion or bias. LINK

Did someone say coffee? Here ya go. BTW (for those interested) The donate button is simply a way to help defray the annual cost of maintaining this site. Previously, it was handled by one very kind and caring individual. It gets to be a bit too much to expect of one individual, though.

Here's where cognitive dissonance gets thick: How can something be God breathed and inaccurate at the same time? (PFAL materials have been shown to be inaccurate.)

Mike, I haven't seen anyone here attack you personally. What we are attacking is your outlandish claim that Wierwille wasn't a plagiarist. Clearly, he was. Deep in your heart, I think you know that. Take any Mickey Mantle discussions off the table. This thread is not about Mickey Mantle.

Mike, I don't think you understand what a copyright is. For lack of a better word, let me just say that a copyright is instantaneous. If you commit a book to a tangible form, it is copyrighted. Just like that. In order to protect yourself and your material, you subsequently file for a certificate of copyright. That is to provide a legal footing on which you can base any claim of originality. I don't suppose that really matters, though, because what you have done is redefine the meaning of copyright. You can't simply redefine the meaning of terms in order to favor your own personal agenda. What Wierwille did was wrong. He stole the works of others and claimed them as his own.I'm not even talking about the content of those works. I'm simply talking about his actions.The fact that you personally choose to rationalize this does not alter reality by one iota.

It's not food for deep thought, Mike. Anyone with a reasonable amount of education understands the essence of intellectual property and plagiarism. Choosing to ignore what you know to be factual does not make it any less true. Let's boil the cabbage down, shall we? Wierwille plagiarized a whole bunch of materials that had been previously produced by other writers. That's not only illegal, it's unbiblical. You know, that whole thing about not stealing and such. Such a pesky little detail. It just seems to get in the way so often. But, wait, there's more. Then he lied about his sources, said God must have given the materials to him because he had already taken all his own copies to the dump. He said God promised to teach him information that hadn't been known for 2,000 years, even though most of it had, in fact, been known. See how that darned bible keeps getting in the way? All that nonsense about not lying. I mean, how inconvenient is that? But that's O.K., Mike. Just change the subject and dance around with fanciful data that doesn't exist. Maybe nobody will notice the diversion. Hey, I just happened to have an interesting thought. Maybe YOU could write the book . Be sure to copyrite it, though. Or, better yet, maybe you could put it straight into public domain. That would eliminate the problem of plagiarism and theft of intellectual property. Be sure to include some surveys and polls. That always spices things up.

Regarding polls and surveys: Studies have shown that 47.9% of all statistics are simply made-up numbers.

Oh, pray, do tell. May I ask what other items are on the list ...and is quantitative data available?