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Paw, Congratulations on your phenomenal weight loss. Keep up the good work.

Paw, I was hoping you would consider clarifying the forum rules by adding the part about the GS mission, so all posters know the boundary of content. It still seems like the pro-twi viewpoints are welcomed, but, not at the cost of the mission, whatever that means. Its vague, but I'm not going to beat a dead horse here. Thanks for your response.

DWBH, So as not to derail this thread, why not start a new thread for each question and address it to the entire group, not just me; that way with each question, we each can see where each stands on each issue.

Here's another piece about Dodd and may give additional insight about why Dodd added those bonuses in the first place: AIG chiefs pressed to donate to Dodd

Peace be to you too. :)

Too many varying questions at one time. Do I look like an encyclopedia? Perhaps you may want to start one question at a time, one topic at a time, on one thread at a time.

I didn't change a word... go back and re-read Paw's quote. But what is wrong with defending leadership, if that is what a poster wants to do? The rules currently state the following, in part: Nothing there about discouraging the defense of TWI leadership.

Right... and you suggested it was an insult twice already; but its not my intent to insult anyone, all I'm asking for is succinct clarity in what is acceptable posting content.

No, I think this issue of posting pro-twi opinions needs to be clarified in the rules so posters know where they stand. Paws remarks to WD were clear... among other things, WD was told his pro-twi opinions were not the primary focus of this forum and that those opinions are already known. Paw said "if you want to defend TWI, that is your privilege. Here we are discussing the other side. I will even set up a site for you for free, if you want talk about the greatness of TWI and it's leadership." So why can't "the greatness of TWI and it's leadership" be discussed here? Do you see why the content is now in question? Just saying that to WD is like giving him a spanking for his content, not for his behavior.

The part about harassing behavior is already clarified and not in dispute.

If Paw's intent was the correction of intentional derailing alone, why mention anything about the content of the derail? i.e. if it were derailing alone the content of the derail would be irrelevant. But since Paw mentioned what the focus of the content should be, it is the focus of the content that I am wondering about and what I feel needs to be clarified and memorialized in the forum rules.

President Obama fires GM boss. This reminds me of Hitler and Volkswagen... a private company, being controlled by the state. I think it'd be unfair to call this Hitlerian type fascism, I mean, it isn't like he threw this guy in a concentration camp... But a softer fascism, yes. Socialism, yes. Marxist theory in action, yes. Obama says he doesn't want to run GM, but his actions speak so loudly, I cannot hear what he is saying. Where in the Constitution does a president have authority to control private industries? From Websters dictionary: Main Entry: so·cial·ism Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\ Function: noun Date: 1837 1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Below is an extract of a recent quote from Paw regarding posting on the forums: This quote appears to be saying that pro-twi viewpoints are not welcomed here. Paw even went so far as to say he'd set up a pro-twi site for free. In other words it seems to be saying "it is your privilege to defend twi, but here, please be quiet, we already know the pro-twi side and we don't want to hear it." Please please clarify if this is a rule change, and if it is, please post this on the forum rules so that all posters (even those with pro-twi viewpoints from time to time) know where they stand.

In a free market economy, there must be consequences for failure. The consequences should be letting the bad companies whose leaders made the bad decisions go into bankruptcy and reorganize, and come back stronger and smarter. Not reward all the mismanagement and greed you talk about by throwing billions of taxpayer dollars at it or controlling it outright. Where in the Constitution is that power given the federal government to be the "saviour" of private companies and guarantee their losses? No private company is too big to fail ... I think that is the kool-aid the people are being fed from the statist propaganda department, to protect their interests. There always is a free-market alternative. Some will be hurt and some are getting hurt anyway regardless of all the billions being spent. But the market will eventually recover, it always does. People will recover. During these times, cutting personal and corporate taxes to build a stronger recovery will help, it has helped during recessions in the past and can today, with politicians interested in creating wealth. In contrast, socialists do not create wealth, they seize and redistribute it. Socialism and fascism, under the guise of "compassion" and "equality", will do all it can to redistribute the wealth and take control of the private sector. I think that is the mindset. "Compassion" at the point of a gun. We are seeing that right before our eyes in varying degrees. Is that YOUR idea of Christianity? The socialists and statists are the greedy ones, taking advantage of this crisis. What was it that Hillary Clinton and Rahm Emanuel said, never let a good crisis go to waste? When the statists have the power, I think they will advance their cause of legalized theft, redistribution, and control of the private sector. They are doing that right now. I think they are so power hungry that most everything they can get away with during this crisis they are going to try like hell.

Well, the twi and klan references are red herrings that only try to cloud and silence legitimate issues, so its a waste of time using smear tactics like that. Regarding the deleted post, Paw contacted me during last years campaign and thought that 1 clip of mine was hate speech, so I deleted it. It simply was a comparison of Hitler and Obama in the sense they are both golden-tongued orators mesmerizing the public, which I thought was a legitimate political point. I was happy to delete it as Paw requested but also told him I didn't think it was a violation of the forum rules. I do think President Obama is a socialist. That is not hate speech, I think that is a fact, as a man is defined by his actions. Socialists seek to redistribute wealth and control more and more of the means of production; which is exactly what he is doing through his massive legalized theft spending programs, and pursuit to seize private firms..

Are you with ACORN?

DWBH, I know, facts about Dodd Obama & Co. get you guys on the left all upset. Relax bro. Have a nice weekend. :)

Sounds rational. :)

Maybe the opposite was the case... Dodd, being the largest recipient of AIG contributions likely felt he needed to pay them back in some way, thus the bailout and bonuses. But with all the hoopla and pressure, now it appears he's giving the contribution money all back. Good. OBAMA should give AIG contributions back as well.

DWBH, Sounds like you need to get unplugged from your computer. Take a break man. Relax, and have a great weekend. :)

OK, discuss. :)