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WOW I feel 180 degrees opposite ever since hearing in PFAL that I am completely, completely absolutely complete in Him. Spiritual deprivation abounded in my life before TWI-1, when I was ignorant of the truth and fearful of eternal hellfire and brimstone. Enter twi-1 and PFAL, speaking the truth in love and the truth cleared up massive error and fears of eternal darkness. I thank God for TWI-1 and PFAL and VPW and others teaching truth that made some sense and made me free. :)-->

Alfakat, yes, I thought we were rightly dividing the word and others mostly were not; and I thought we were teaching the truth, more so than anyone else. That's vastly different than saying PFAL was the ONLY TRUTH in the world. I never believed that. Where other groups were teaching truth, I was glad. For example, Jehovah's Witnesses taught the correct teaching on hell and the dead not being alive. They taught that Jesus is God's son. I believe they are teaching truth there. Other Christian groups are teaching salvation by grace, same deal. Does twi have the ONLY truth in these categories? No. "He'll teach me the word like it hadn't been known since the first century" doesn't mean that nobody else had truth, and if you thought that, I think you were mistaken. We still had brains to see others having truth in various teachings, you didn't see that? If you believed that PFAL contained the ONLY TRUTH in the world, then you must have believed that everyone else was wrong on every point. Well I think that's mistaken and not representative of what twi was teaching back in those days. Other folks were teaching truth and how could Wierwille deny that? He didn't. From the class (approx. quote): "when and where we rightly divide the Word, we have truth; when and where we wrongly divide the Word, we have error." Anyone, even non-twi folks, can and did do that. :)-->

It's been playing in my head all afternoon ... Certain in the midst of uncertainty ... yeah yeah yeah .... :)-->

In my opinion, the best way to take PFAL is at a one-week camp surrounded by beautiful sweet-smelling peaceful mother nature with not a care or worry in the world. :)-->

Steve, I hate Kmart. Aww, don't be sad, be happy. Because God even helps us folks who aren't as spiritually enlightened as yourself. ...

This sounds something like that famous phrase "Eat the fish, and spit out the bones." Only question is, what is fish, and what is bone? I guess that's the individual's decision to work out in their own life. :)-->

Nothing from twi. If anyone thought that, they weren't using their head ...VPW said in his PFAL books that he learned from men of God, scattered across the continent. Obviously, truth exists outside of twi, that's where twi got it from. Thank God twi got it right about salvation too. Had I believed the stuff from my RC background, I couldn't move onto another Christian group without eternal damnation awaiting my soul. :)-->

My thoughts exactly, dmiller. :)-->

Here are some of my long-term benefits at the hands of twi... The bible is the word of God, something that has integrity and trustworthiness Anybody who believes Romans 10:9 is saved, no matter what denomination or group they are with. Christians are saved by God's grace, not works Being born again, which gift is never to be taken away How to manifest holy spirit, principally SIT The Dead are not alive now but dead until Christ's return and the resurrections God is a loving and forgiving God How to talk and reason about God and the bible with folks who may want to know more ... :)-->

The thing is, at this point it doesn't matter whether he was trustworthy or not; what matters is the content of the teachings and whether it makes sense. A lot of PFAL still makes sense to me. Some of it doesn't.I can't arbitrarily throw out what makes sense, just because Wierwille didn't live up to what he should have as a minister. :)-->

George Carlin can talk and burp at the same time. :)-->

Well, I'm not sure about this, but an old time Way believer once tried to prove to me that he could speak in tongues, and talk, at the same time. He was talking to me, and claiming he was speaking in tongues too, in his mind. Don't know about this, but why should I want to speaking in tongues at the same time I speak English; why not just wait and do one thing wholeheartedly at a time? :)-->

Coolwaters, just think of how many more awards you would have won, doing just one thing at a time! :)-->

I don't know, Belle. If VPW was so incompetent, why have thousands learned and retained for years a large portion of the teachings? Even today, there's a sizable portion of folks who retain Wierwille's teachings. To me, that's the mark of a good teacher, one to communicates the thoughts and ideas very well. Doesn't mean he's right on everything, but it means the retention and assimilation of the students was at a high level. :)-->

So that's why service is so bad hah? ;)-->Nah, I prefer to be concentrating on one thought at a time, one item at a time, then when I'm finished with one, move onto the next. ... :)-->

Krys, I'm not positive about this but I think I heard someplace that there are fasteners that exist for screens, so that they hold in place under pressure. That way, you may be able to open the bottom portion of the windows and let the cats have fun without worrying. I asked our maintenance man to check it out for me but haven't heard back yet. Perhaps you might want to check that out locally at a Home Depot or something ... :)-->

Wow these pics are incredible. It motivates me to try to take some pics while riding this year. :)-->

I never experienced this in twi twigs which were much more loving and informal; but I think this was the mandate in training programs such as corps and wow. Understandably so, you are there to "learn from us" mentality; do it our way, because we know best and "will lead you to do what's best." Problem is, when you're in that situation, you're limited to the excellence and/or ignorance of the folks doing the teaching and leading. That's why I think the Sixth Corps (6) (SICK) had so many problems cause there were so few real leaders who knew what they were doing; novices really. I don't think it's a bad attitude to want to soak up and learn from someone who's more advanced than yourself; you just have to make darn sure they are better than you. :)-->

Steve, has it really been confirmed? I haven't heard that one yet. Only opinions and suppositions and jokes about it.

Imagine if she really is a lesbian? Craig's worst nightmares manifest itself?

I agree. How's it going, dabobbadoabatadata? Love ya. :)-->

Hey arent' they plagiaqrizing the Rock? Where'd they get that idea from?

A hotter seller! Dr. Carolyn Rawlins :)-->

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Randall Patrick McMurphy ;)-->