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Actually what I was asking was something godly or nice about the people, teachings, etc.? Your good experience, something genuinely nice for you to say about it? Something godly experienced at the hands of twi? Things you feel they did, said or taught that were "right on"?

I'm waiting to hear Catcup's opinion. Rascal, there's also spiritual fruit evidenced in VPW's life. If he was all about evil works and that's it, I don't think we'd even be here on this board talking. I'm not and never have denied VPW's walking in the flesh, and walking by his old man nature. I've said it over and over again, that he committed evil works. But, I observe it is YOU who deny anything spiritual and godly about the man. It seems you define him by his sins, and that's it. That's why I say you are full of hate; because you haven't been reasonable or objective at all.

Rascal, do you care to share any experiences in twi that were godly for you? Something good?

I think VPW was born again/saved/converted. And I believe God when he says that those that are saved have everlasting life. Your turn ...

Cheap shot, Sadie.Why do you disparage mj simply because she is sharing her opinion?

George, it's a tragic and depressing thought. The thought of eternal nothingness doesn't exactly thrill me. I can think of two things right off the bat: (1) spiritual/mental peace; (2) motivation to try to live in God's will. :)-->

Trick question, Belle. I try to steer clear of them. What do you think?

Big Wierwille Sale With A Reserve!

George, I still believe in the promises of God. Those promises are our hope for the future. Spending an eternity in darkness, without God and without hope, is substantially mega-bleak. :)-->

JT, there were plenty of other great times, too, just that week really stands out. God, Jesus and the holy spirit were rocking all week. :)-->

dmiller, don't let anyone talk you out of the redemptive powers of the Lord Jesus Christ. Your sins have been paid for ... 1Jo 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1Jo 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world. :)-->

My greatest week in TWI was July of 1973, when I took PFAL at Shelter Island, NY. Imagine learning all the goodies in Pfal in one week's time, in beautiful natural surroundings. That's gotta be the best way to take PFAL, if they ever bring it back. :)-->

Steve, I hate Kmart. I go shopping at Walmart. ;)--> :)-->

Steve, I agree with you on both counts. :)-->

Steve, it sounds interesting and I will purchase it. Thanks for the tip. :)-->

Wow, I never really thought about this. Is it possible that the extreme anti-abortion folks are practicing idolatry by worshipping unborn fetuses?

Goey, cheap shot to folks who needed to hear God's word, and got real blessed hearing and believing in Jesus Christ, and learning more about God. Shame shame shame on you.Besides, you said once you probably got born again while in twi ... and I don't look at you as a glassy - eyed sycophant. :)-->

Steve, listen to John Schoenheit's tape set on Revelation and you will hear the answer. :)-->

That's true, but God laid on Jesus the iniquity of us all. Perhaps you just don't truly believe it?

Steve, have you listened to John Schoenheit's tape set on the Book of Revelation? I thought it was pretty exciting and detailed some amazing and blessed things. :)-->

Thanks mj412, you said it better than I did. :)-->

It does make sense now, since all you seem to look at and focus on are his sins and works of the flesh, therefore naturally, that's all you're going to think has any significant meaning, from God's perspective, would be his evil works. Therefore you conclude that was the sum total of his life, end of story. Geeze folks, if that's all God looked at and focused on in our lives, our evil works, our sins, our works of the flesh -- and condemned us forever because of it, then I think we are in some deep doo doo. Come to think of it, he did look at all that ... and that's why he sent us a solution to all that ... he's called Jesus Christ. John 3:16I believe John 3:16. :)-->

My belief is that he did both good and evil works. But, as a matter of salvation, there is no equivocation. He was/is born again of God's spirit, because he confessed with his mouth the Lord Jesus, and believed in his heart that God hath raised him from the dead.Also, Jesus is the lamb of God, to take away the sins of the world. Jesus suffered and was crucified because of the world's sins, God laying our sins upon Jesus, on the cross, so that you and I and Victor Paul could be saved, a la Romans 10:9. If there are any sins a person commits that Christ didn't bare on the cross, then Christ failed, and Christ's passion is a hoax. Now I know you don't believe that, do you? Take a look at those other sins besides adultery, murders, drunkeness, etc. There's envy, strife, wrath, lust, emulations, hatred etc. So you believe folks who do those aren't saved as well? Not me.We were taught in twi that "shall not inherit the kingdom of God" must mean in the category of rewards and cannot mean no salvation, because then there's a major contradiction in the word of God. I believe that VPW and others were saved, a la Christ's perfect sacrifice, and Roman's 10:9. :)-->

Ok, so it's what I said before, you believe then that they are unsaved because of works of the flesh. Interesting!

Ok, but then what will stop them being saved? Since you believe they aren't, perhaps you could explain why?