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Well, I'm not sure about this, but an old time Way believer once tried to prove to me that he could speak in tongues, and talk, at the same time. He was talking to me, and claiming he was speaking in tongues too, in his mind. Don't know about this, but why should I want to speaking in tongues at the same time I speak English; why not just wait and do one thing wholeheartedly at a time? :)-->

Coolwaters, just think of how many more awards you would have won, doing just one thing at a time! :)-->

I don't know, Belle. If VPW was so incompetent, why have thousands learned and retained for years a large portion of the teachings? Even today, there's a sizable portion of folks who retain Wierwille's teachings. To me, that's the mark of a good teacher, one to communicates the thoughts and ideas very well. Doesn't mean he's right on everything, but it means the retention and assimilation of the students was at a high level. :)-->

So that's why service is so bad hah? ;)-->Nah, I prefer to be concentrating on one thought at a time, one item at a time, then when I'm finished with one, move onto the next. ... :)-->

Krys, I'm not positive about this but I think I heard someplace that there are fasteners that exist for screens, so that they hold in place under pressure. That way, you may be able to open the bottom portion of the windows and let the cats have fun without worrying. I asked our maintenance man to check it out for me but haven't heard back yet. Perhaps you might want to check that out locally at a Home Depot or something ... :)-->

Wow these pics are incredible. It motivates me to try to take some pics while riding this year. :)-->

I never experienced this in twi twigs which were much more loving and informal; but I think this was the mandate in training programs such as corps and wow. Understandably so, you are there to "learn from us" mentality; do it our way, because we know best and "will lead you to do what's best." Problem is, when you're in that situation, you're limited to the excellence and/or ignorance of the folks doing the teaching and leading. That's why I think the Sixth Corps (6) (SICK) had so many problems cause there were so few real leaders who knew what they were doing; novices really. I don't think it's a bad attitude to want to soak up and learn from someone who's more advanced than yourself; you just have to make darn sure they are better than you. :)-->

Steve, has it really been confirmed? I haven't heard that one yet. Only opinions and suppositions and jokes about it.

Imagine if she really is a lesbian? Craig's worst nightmares manifest itself?

I agree. How's it going, dabobbadoabatadata? Love ya. :)-->

Hey arent' they plagiaqrizing the Rock? Where'd they get that idea from?

A hotter seller! Dr. Carolyn Rawlins :)-->

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Randall Patrick McMurphy ;)-->

ManofaThousand Screennames, that's R.P. McMurphy! :)-->

Go to Best Buy and get "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest". Nurse Ratchett is there. :)-->

Outandabout, thanks for sharing. You probably don't remember me, but I remember you. The branch coordinator in Amarillo wasn't as on the ball as we thought she was. Obviously, you should have been treated much better. And I'm amazed that after all that, you went into the Corps! Anyways, thank God everything turned out ok. :)-->

Waysurvivor, how do you define beating? There's beating, and then there's BEATING. I think twi defined it as getting their attention, use of the spoon when children did not obey your commands, then talk to them and console them afterwards. Never beat them to a pulp so that you leave marks and bruises, so that you get angry, because then the whole purpose of the correction is lost or supplanted by the beating, and you at that point are probably abusing your child.In other words, there's a right way and a wrong way to use the rod of correction. :)-->

Will do, dmiller. Thanks. :)-->

Mj, I agree with everything you've shared on this. I still believe that we're born again of uncorruptible seed! Walking by the old man doesn't change or destroy that, thank God.I remember as a youngster in the Roman Catholic church, I was taught that I must confess my sins before I died, otherwise I wouldn't be exonerated. But then I wore a cloth pendant, hoping that if I forgot to confess a sin, it would be covered and forgiven. But I'm so glad I learned the truth and now don't have to worry about whether God really loves me, or whether he's going to let me live in his kingdom or not. And let's not forget Mary the Mediatrix. "Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, amen." How many Hail Mary's will get one into heaven? I'm glad I'm not under that yoke any longer. :)-->

In Aug. of 1974 I went to Amarillo TX out WOW, 7 twigs, 28 people. There was a young lady who, on the way to Amarillo, got possessed (the only way I know to describe it). She was getting progressively worse so from the time the Rock ended, to the time we arrived, was possession, or what seemed like it. Totally out of control, foul language, fierce, visage changing, the works. She was sent packing, home. Don't know if the branch coordinator called her parents, probably, but Valerie52 might know more about this than me, cause she was in the branch coords. family. Anyways, looking back on this, I don't think it would have hurt us to send her to a local hospital and have her evaluated, on the ministry's dime, rather than send her packing. In this case, people's praying and ministering didn't work, but I'm sure this young lady didn't get possessed on purpose. She needed help, and we just let her go home.

Rascal, all those years involved, and you won't bear witness to anything truly godly because of twi. Not one thing of any real spiritual significance. I see something here; you appear to be definitely sold out to speaking and thinking evil about twi, and you won't budge at all. You can't stop speaking about the bad things, pause, and reflect about anything that was genuinely good on a thread designed for that purpose. No objectivity, no let up to your relentless focusing on people's sins. Won't even share your heart to even try to communicate something nice. Because you were with them years and years, I can't believe everything was bad in your life. It goes against human nature to want to stay there so long. That's why I can't believe a word you say. You're just unbelievable. Maybe sometime in the future if you ever try to be somewhat honest and forthcoming with the totality of your experiences, we'd have a basis to communicate and possibly learn something from each other.

Well, so is John, Romans, Ephesians.No point in continuing to argue about this. You don't think VPW is saved, but I do. Catcup, your view?

Rascal, all those years in twi, and you won't share one thing that was spiritually profitable and godly in your life, something really significant at the hands of twi?

I don't believe Galatians the way you're interpreting it, cause among other things, it contradicts a whole lot of other scriptures. Should I throw everything else out, and simply believe what you are saying irrespective of anything else? Doesn't the contradiction of Galatians (the way you're interpreting it) with John and Romans and Ephesians make you pause at all? Make you consider any other possibilities?