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ok Kry, just opened a new one. :)-->

kry check you pt please :)-->

There is good in him. :)-->

Can I get a child tax credit for my cats? Wow, that giveaway program definitely works against single folks with no kids. It takes a village.

Definitely a motorcycle! That sounds great David, thanks. :)-->

Thanks for bringing this up Laleo. I am ever so intrigued by this phenomenon ... some folks abandon their own harmless or good thoughts and experiences of twi; ever so slowly and surely over time morphing and harmonizing their thoughts one by one in with other more dominant posters' evil and corrupted conceptions of twi. Like a vulcan mind meld. Or better yet, invasion of the body snatchers, only slower.

Boy that's a fact if I ever heard one. Thanks HCW. :)-->

But I am curious, aren't you?My car or yours? :)-->)

You're welcome Steve! :)-->

Just finished my tax returns online. Federal was FREE New York state was $19.95 Oh Glo-ray I'm surprised this thread got so little hits. You really do get something free here. :)-->

outandabout, lets go and see if it's like old times. :)-->

welcome peahead :)-->

HCW, thanks for your perspective. If anyone has reason to point fingers for this it'd be you, but you haven't. Have you realized by now that there are some folks who will use stories such as yours and still blame twi, facts notwithstanding? But there is learning even in false accusations. Thanks for sharing. :)-->

David, I'd love to. You're in Ohio right? I'll plan a nice bike trip when the weather gets warmer. Haven't been to Ohio in years. :)-->

How can you be so sure he lied? Maybe there's a reason why, other than deception? As I mentioned, it also could have been something as innocent as the "all without exception" or "all without distinction" oversight. Why does everything about Wierwille have to be evil? I think it's only about evil in those minds who choose to harbor those thoughts continuously. When in doubt, think evil. When in doubt, blame the trustees. Love, oldiesman

A good question. David, may I have the opportunity to taste test your water? May I have a gallon? I'd like to compare it with Penta while in hydronated bliss. :)-->

Mr. Reed, perhaps you were with VPW 24 hrs. a day, 7 days a week, to make the outrageous claim "certainly VPW was not walking in love"? That seems to be the basis of your spin, along with focusing only on Wierwille's sins, like some of our Greasespot brethren. And you so conveniently omit the fact that VPW taught the bible for 40 years, and THAT blessed lots of folks, thousands as a matter of fact, many of who are still fellowshipping in the offshoot ministries; many of who still appreciate PFAL, and lots of other great teachings.There were times he was walking in love, and truth. And your spin is flawed and biased, because you so conveniently fail to mention or even consider those times and events. Denying much of Christian truth?May I ask, what much Christian truth would that be that was denied, Mr. Reed?

Satori, we learned in twi that believing doesn't cover reckless acts. Your spin is off the mark.And I don't need to prove my worthiness...God has made me holy and without blame before Him in love. Now those of us who want HCW to continue his story, uninterrupted, why don't you reprove Satori like you reprove me? I shant call you hypocrites, that'd be wrong.

Rascal please come down off of your high horse. My opinions aren't the only ones being expressed here. For the folks who would like me to be quiet, sorry, I'm just as entitled as you to express my opinion. Shall we all be quiet, and let the man tell his story?

Outandabout, I distinctly remember being taught the opposite. We learned that believing doesn't cover reckless acts. Remember that? Remember Athletes of the Spirit when Craig went over that? That's in the category of "tempting fate" or "tempting God". God doesn't cover your recklessness. Like going 90 mph in a 60mph speed zone and "believing" not to get a ticket. Doesn't work. THAT'S what we learned in twi. And apparently it's true, cause when we do reckless things, bad things happen.

Excathedra, some of your statements require a response. Ex, why do you reprove only me and not Satori and the others? And maybe there wouldn't even have been a response from me had you and Satori not responded with your finger-pointing blame game. But you seem to be just as good as some others with it. You call them "stupid ******* bastards".A man doesn't have his hands on the wheel and his eyes on the road when driving the truck; the truck is being manipulated by a "gusting crosswind"; it struck a "huge crack in the road"; yet all you see and all you blame is twi and the trustees and call them "stupid ******* bastards"? Why can't you just let him tell his story? How about also cancelling the production of trucks after Ken died? how about cancelling roads after Ken died?Ken had nothing to do with the accident. It was all either LEAD, twi, the trustees, the truck, the road. And while you're at it, why not blame God for creating the earth because Ken died on it? Put your fingerpointing blame on everything else, except individual responsibility. It's as fraudulent as a 3-dollar bill.

And one of their key policies to drive the driver was to force the L.E.A.D. evaluator to conduct the evaluation right in the middle of him driving the truck.Satori... dead-on post!!!

HCW, a friendly reminder, Please keep posting... :)-->

Just blame the trustees.

EXACTLY. Ya see, the dumba$$ cheap Trustees should have gotten those dumba$$ Corps Coordinators and Lead Coordinators all together in one room, and hired enlarged staff and with that enlarged staff, told those dumba$$e$: hey fellas, when ya drivin' a truck, make damn sure ya have your two hands on the steering wheel, and your two eyes on the road! But those damned Trustees didn't do that. In fact, they shoulda realized something like this could happen, and conducted driving lessons too!