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You're welcome Sharon! I prefer to keep all that on mine.

Hi Sharon, It's quite simple once you get the knack for it. Here are the steps: 1) -- go to www.smileycentral.com and click the blue circle to get free smileys. It will then create a smiley icon on your browser bar that will give you access to all the smileys. 2) -- when the smiley icon is on your browser bar, click it and as you see there will be multiple categories of smileys to choose from. Choose one, then right click on it and choose "copy smiley HTML" 3) -- next, go back on GS Cafe and when you're ready to reply to a post, click reply, then you will see a bar at the top and one of the choices will be "Display Image UBB-CODE". 4) -- Click that and you will see a box there to paste your image URL from smiley central. 5) -- click ok, then when the url is displayed, just take out the two [/url]

moddishwasher RULES

Oh Chas, ya didn't have to.

Why thank you, Sharon!

Hey that sounds pretty good. Can't complain about that.So why are the miserable folks staying in twi? Just my two cents worth, but I think they should be honest with themselves and with their spouses or whoever, and just leave. "To Thine Own Self Be True"

Hitler built the Autobahns too.

Belle, that makes sense. They wouldn't know how happy you are since they don't talk to you. But, not everyone who has left is much more blessed than they ever dreamed possible in twi. That's an assumption on your part.And similar to THEM not speaking to YOU, you and I don't know how happy or unhappy someone in twi is, unless you or I talk directly to THEM. I will accept your statements that you're much happier now than you ever dreamed you were in twi, and am thankful for that. I don't think twi was ever for you. However, I will not accept that folks in twi I never met are unhappy, miserable, or share your views. Maybe they do, maybe they don't; I have no way of knowing unless I talk to them.

This is true. The judge himself said that a jury should decide the merits of the allegations. Let me repeat: the judge said a jury should decide the allegations. I feel comfortable that the judge is correct, that after hearing all the facts under oath, the jury decides. That's the proper way to judge a case.And so I think it's just rumor, hearsay and innuendo to you and me. Unless you have firsthand knowledge of what happened, you really don't know what happened. Neither do I. So I refrain from being supportive of the allegations, especially from folks who might have a pre-determined mindset and unbalanced perspective against everything that is twi. As Johniam mentioned earlier, I am not unsympathetic to those who have been abused. It has happened in twi. I just wish in this case there would have been a trial so that all the facts would've been exposed for a jury, and subsequently us, to make an informed decision based on all the exposed facts. That didn't happen. Also the thought crossed my mind that a trial might have brought down Riverbark too. I guess that wasn't in the plans. Oh well.

Defeatist attitude, HCW.

Am I? Ok. Whatever. ChasUFarley, do you know what an allegation is?From Merriam Webster's Tenth Collegiate Dictionary, an allegation is: 1) the act of alleging; 2) a positive assertion, specif: a statement by a party to a legal action of what the party undertakes to prove; 3) an assertion unsupported and by implication regarded as unsupportable. In short, an allegation is not proof. That's why we go to court, to prove allegations. And so when you say that Ms. Allen was raped, you are believing their allegation, which is to be viewed as unsupportable because it was never proven in court. Too bad too. They had a possibility of doing so. You can believe what you want, its your head.

David, I bet it's got something to do with Randi Dandy.

ChasUFarley, what violent crime? Geeze, and they think I'M on drugs. The Allens had the perfect opportunity to get all the facts out in the open, under oath, in open court, but since they didn't and chose da money instead, we'll never really know if she got raped, now would we? But as far as I understand the facts, she was sexually harassed. She could have opened the door, and left. There were no allegations of physical restraint. That's different from rape. But I would have loved to read the testimony, wouldn't you have?

cool dats mine control

I totally agree Johniam. And thx for the support.

ChasUFarley, don't you read? I didn't call anybody helpless mindless victims, in fact I believe the opposite. I believe adults like Fern All*n were not helpless mindless victims. And by the way, she sure made out well in the end, doncha think?

That's why I try to treat participants in twi-2 as responsible adults who can make decisions on their own. I think treating them like infantile helpless mindless victims doesn't do any good. Treat every decent person with respect and there's a good chance you'll receive back the same consideration. Me too Jonny. Thx for your comments.

Yeah dmiller, that makes sense. No Cool, I never heard of mine control. If any miners disagree, feel free to opine. Me too, HCW. However, I'd like to amend my previous dissent and say that there possibly were and are some folks who made decisions to stay in TWI because of fear.

No.First, no one can "make" you think something you don't choose to think for yourself, unless you are narcotized, perhaps. Participants in twi-2 are responsible for their own thoughts, and think for themselves, no matter what idiotic suggestions are proposed. LCM is gone, anyway. Instead of looking at twi-2 folks as helpless victims who can't leave, I see them as Christians who've made a choice where they want to be. Might not be the choice I'd make, but it's a choice, nevertheless.

Do you remember multiple beatings from multiple people? Some have said that all the adults carried around wooden spoons all the time, then spanked any child who got out of line at any time with the spoon.