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Goodness gracious, I was just giving you a compliment.

This statement is a mischaracterization of twi-1. I wouldn't have been involved if this were the case. Perhaps it was true of twi-2, as Radar said, but if that's the case, I wish folks would make that distinction and stop communicating misinformation about twi-1. Just my two cents worth.

They might say it's none of anyones business except the family members themselves. They'd be correct. What a political circus.

Just a general observation, but being a way corps sponsor for many years, I never would have given folks a dime unless they took their corps commitment very seriously and were going to stand moving the word for many years to come. Think about it. Why would someone shell out their hard earned money sponsoring someone for the corps, unless they thought that person was going to make a lifetime commitment to the movement of the word, thereby utilizing the corps sponsor's money most wisely. Doesn't make all that much sense that folks who went corps, didn't think it was a lifetime commitment. What else would it be? Why go thru all that intense training and b.s. so that you can throw it all away when you graduated? They didn't have to give you a paper in writing to sign, for you to know it was a lifetime commitment. God's spiritual elite don't go thru the program and quit it and do their own thing. Of course, if you paid your own way, I suppose you could do what you wanted with the training after you graduated. But I'd wager that spiritual partners expected more.

Dave, I made a few gallons of water with the Kenmore over the weekend. It's really easy to use. I tried a gallon or two without the filter, and then a couple of gallons with, and didn't notice that much difference in the taste with the filter in there. Maybe the filter needs a few gallons thru it to do it's job? That's such a great idea about the syrup. Thanks :)-->

Belle, looks like Raf blew that one out of the water. I argue not with Raf on doctrinal matters.

I'll bow out of the conversation if this thread is about the '90's and beyond, which I freely admit ignorance.

Oh Rascal, can't you abandon the helpless victim routine, just for once

Diazbro, I'm impressed it's not ok with you. Really. You deserve a prize.

Many many wives ruled their husbands from behind the scenes. That's a dirty little secret you women folks don't care to admit.

What a crock. Women were in charge all along...they had their men by the b..

The thief in that verse is satan, and it goes to show where your head is at to compare VPW with satan. Diazbro, your condemnation and demonization of everything that is twi does nothing to enhance my belief system or change my mind, but I'll be happy to hear what so revived you from twi that's so exciting. I'm all ears. oh George, you're heavy on the cynicism, but lite on the beef. Believing in Jesus Christ is the only hope for man, at least that's what I've found. Nothing else comes close. If you find something that's more promising, more hopeful, let me know.

George you're correct we've been through all this, but wouldn't it be profitable to learn something that would motivate to change, rather than hearing negatives all the time? If you think PFAL was all trash, tell me something that's profitable to take its place. Do you have any hope in life? I'll gladly chuck it out the window if something better comes along and makes more sense.

Well, I'd say it's an adaptation of Gone with the Wind. But let's say you're correct. As I said before, all you seem to care about and focus on is the thief and the theft. You don't appreciate the goodness or usefulness of the film, or not even any of its many scenes.

If VPW's work were a motorcycle, I sort of look at it like he took various parts from various different brands of motorcycles, then put together from those parts his own brand. Now he did say he took the parts from other brands. He didn't say he made all those parts all by himself. Were they stolen? Hmmmm. To the extent he paid for any of those teachings (parts), like B.G. Leonards class, like Bullingers books, like Stiles book, and whereever else he learned from, then they weren't stolen, they were bought and used. I may ride a bike today without knowing where all these parts are from. Some may be made in U.S., some in Japan, some in Germany, whatever. But go ahead, you folks who can't help but think of VPW nothing but a thief. All you seem to focus on is that the bike has stolen parts. You can dwell on that if you so choose, but I prefer to focus on riding the bike. Looks to me like the motorcycle he built from all those various parts rode pretty good, and still does!

Too late now, sorry. Hey where'd M.D.V. go? Come back M.D.V., come back...

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When statements such as these are made, it's really no surprise why JAL characterizes them as potshots. He also challenges you brave anonymous posters who have a beef with him to speak with him privately. What's wrong with that? Why don't you email him hmmmmmmmmm.

Have you tried exercise?

I think this reveals why folks like me are thankful for VPW teaching PFAL. Let's say PFAL was all VPW's own private interpretation of scriptures. In that case one shouldn't be surprised when folks say they were helped by VPW, since PFAL helped them make sense of the bible like never before and have a strong (or stronger than before) belief system in the bible, in God, and all because of VPW own interpretation of scriptures. Something to try to understand why many folks still think VPW was walking in the spirit when teaching PFAL, cause it helped them big time and they figure that it was God helping them through VPW. Saying it was only VPW's mythology, or private interpretation, tends to give VPW even more credence for putting it together, not less, for those of us who find it very useful. Just another reminder, it wasn't the critics of PFAL who help me understand and believe the bible, it was VPW and PFAL. You guys who think you have all the answers now about everything twi weren't around giving answers when we needed help....VPW and PFAL was around. Before that, I didn't even pick the bible up.

Belle, you're a mega-victim. Not only were you in twi, but at the wrong time no less.