oldiesman

Probably true. Offshoots have been described as keeping the baby, but throwing out the bathwater. So in that light, offshoots might represent the best twi once had to offer, with the simultaneous effort to dissuade the worst elements.

Thanks Sunesis for sharing your personal moments with LCM and a thumbs up to you for resisting and saying "no." Geeze, wouldn't it have been good for LCM to marry someone who he was sexually compatible with? That might have helped, who knows. It makes sense that LCM was corrupted along the way by VPW's doctrine (or lack thereof) of no consequences for adultery. I don't think LCM became an adulterer until the very late '70's. LCM trusted VPW so much I guess he must have thought he was right about everything, even this.

Rascal, if what you assert here is true, then I guess OL' Craig shouldn't be thought of as so bad after all? Ol' LCM couldn't have gotten so mean and evil without OL' VP, is that it? Of course you believe this... It fits right in with your endless victim mentality propaganda... Everyone's a victim of twi and VP in some way... Oh and Happy Mothers Day, belatedly...

Nervecurve, welcome to Greasespot Cafe! Oh and I wouldn't talk about bitterness too much if I were you, lest you be accused of MANIPULATING others' thoughts...

I doubt he'd be offended Steve!, because I don't think he's afflicted with the same mental disease as some others who post. :)-->

Steve!, I don't need you to interpret why I say things.

You've got Courage! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Rascal, to quote Judge Milian, who I admire, "I wouldn't believe a word you say if your tongue came notarized."

Would it matter any?You accuse Jonny of painting a rosey picture when all he does is share his experiences and thoughts, and maybe has a little something nice to say. You call me a creep when giving a compliment to Jonny's wife for saying no to Martindale, reading evil into my statement as if I'm attacking someone. My guess is, if some folks wrote some nice things about LCM, you'd only minimize and disparage it, just like you've been doing with others and anyone else who disagrees with your accusative mindset. Yes, it certainly seems like you're making up for being quiet for 20 years. :)-->

Too bad some posters take a simple compliment to Jonny's wife as offensive. I think it just shows how some love to think evil continually.

Me too Jonny. Real nice also to hear that incident involving your wife, who "just said no" and stood on principle.

I can't speak for the twi of today, but back in those oldies but goodies days, PFAL was a bargain. Just do the math. Let's see: you spend $75.00 on PFAL. Take PFAL 10 times (the next 9 times were free.) That's $7.50 per class... I was told that PFAL was once free but because folks were getting it for free, more than too many didn't show. That got VP outraged, which was why he started charging. Makes sense to me. I'd be ****** too if folks say they'd be there and then they don't show. Wouldn't you? Anyway, I think it was a good thing to charge something for PFAL. ( I disagree with $200 though!)

A few days ago a newspaper article said that oil production levels (barrels) are at the same level as when regular gas was at $1.89 a gallon. That means that we should be paying $1.89 a gallon, not $2.33 per gallon. This is all profit and price gouging of the greedy oil companies. Capitalism is not ok when there is price collusion going on. Bush should do something.

What is more interesting is whether Peeler will accept da money.

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I watch Judge Milian she's on right after Dr. Phil and a whole lot prettier. she's so HOT

Jonny, here are the basic steps:1) -- go to www.smileycentral.com and click the blue circle to get free smileys. It will then create a smiley icon on your browser bar that will give you access to all the smileys. 2) -- when the smiley icon is on your browser bar, click it and as you see there will be multiple categories of smileys to choose from. Choose one, then right click on it and choose "copy smiley HTML" 3) -- next, go back on GS Cafe and when you're ready to reply to a post, click reply, then you will see a bar at the top and one of the choices will be "Display Image UBB-CODE". 4) -- Click that and you will see a box there to paste your image URL from smiley central. 5) -- click ok, then when the url is displayed, just take out the two symbols and post the reply.

I like giraffes.

I would say that God making Adam and Eve is rock-clad proof. If it was in God's plan for humans to be bisexual, not being a big deal what gender one has sex with, wouldn't he have formed humans that way? Going both ways? Seems that'd be logical and proof that bisexuality was planned.

Try it.

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I believe because the message of salvation and other spiritual truths were exceedingly important in the grand scheme of things, and were there in twi for folks to believe and accept, and some found that very satisfying and accepted them. But along with that, came hurt and anguish for some others, as you point out. Best answer I can give is that we humans can separate the two, i.e., believe that the good came from God, and the evil came from Satan. God is love and light, but God doesn't stop his love and light because the devil gets to apply darkness and evil in this world. That's obvious. That's why some folks got hurt in twi while others got blessed. The two were happening simultaneously. If anyone has any better answers, I'm listening.

The following is the best explanation I've heard as to why God allows evil to happen: Victor Paul WierwilleExcerpt of Session 6 Power For Abundant Living

I've tried it, and I like it. Penta Water Taste great, less filling...