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God's love was one of the first things I learned in twi, starting with the sacrifice of Christ and incorruptibility of the new birth.
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And YOU have GOOD taste? My friends PIT BULL has better manners.
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Krys talked early on about the benefits of a hyperbaric oxygen chamber, and those things are in hospitals right now, helping people. Oxygen saturated water is supposed to be an extension of that theory ... no, it hasn't been scientifically proven yet, but has been reported to help folks and animals. I continue to have an open mind about it. IT'S THE WEEKEND, give 'em hell.
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It's Time to ICE my cellphone
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Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
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Yes. Well maybe not kids but you get my drift.Playboys are good reading material. Lot's of goodies there. Have you read one lately? Hey Raffy, try it you might like it. All ya gotta do is do what I do, when you come to the pictures, cover your eyes.
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I have zero interest in Harry Potter books but I'd bet money that they're at least helping people improve their reading skills. And what a way to make money...oh gowd what a goldmine
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So Long From Us
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Theories on Victor Paul Wierwille’s Spirituallity
oldiesman replied to sirguessalot's topic in About The Way
CM,Are you saying that Jesus the man wasn't God but Christ the man is God? -
WhiteDove, all it really takes is some common sense and honesty to explain VP's "absent Christ" teaching, and you've done just that.
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You choose to only accentuate those practices that represented sin and the worst in people, because you want to degrade twi any which way you can.
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I heard VP say that the time to teach about healing is not when a person is sick, but when a person is well.That indicated (to me) that one shouldn't knock someone over the head if they're sick. Same is true of believing. But still and all, I looked upon those admonitions of believing as challenges. "If I wasn't receiving the promises of God, perhaps it was my believing that was coming up short." It's not evil to suggest that one's believing isn't there, if one doesn't receive a promise from God. What do you expect a biblically-based group to say when God's promises are not received? God is a liar? The Word is untrue? Personally, I would rather believe that my believing is not perfect, or even falls short; than believe God's word is untrue. "It's me oh Lord"
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Rascal and others, if you believe you have a better understanding of God and the scriptures than outside of your twi experience, that's great, and I'm all ears and will consider what you say. But I'm not swallowing the propaganda I'm reading about what twi supposedly taught. I know what twi taught, and still have the books.
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Oh my lawdy, I can't believe I'm reading this. I haveta get my spiritual halitosis meter out for this one. Contrary to propaganda, we were taught in twi (PFAL to be exact) that it's available to believe on God's promises and that was the context believing was presented. What's available How to receive What to do with it Needs & wants parallel God's ability = God's willingness That formula does not tell God what to do. Rather, it is claiming what God says is already yours, via the written word. Even this isn't telling God what to do: Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. It's having faith (believing) that God will bring to pass those desires of your heart, as you walk in fellowship with him. As VP said, we don't need to pray "if it be thy will" when we already know what his will is, via the Word.