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Personally, I think we'll have a rotating job schedule. After all, we have all of eternity. I'd be willing to clean toilets for a few hundred years under those circumstances, wouldn't you?

I don't see anything in scripture or, as a general matter of good policy, tossing out biblical truths one has learned and retained for years, because the communicator of those truths was flawed and unethical. The bible says we are to "prove all things, hold fast to that which is good". That means if we learned truths from Victor Paul Wierwille, or L. Craig Martindale, Rosalie F. Rivenbark, we hold fast to them, irrespective of their screwups, or even of their good works! "Prove All Things, Hold Fast To That Which Is Good" I've been speaking in tongues for over 30 years now, a truth I learned from VP. I still speak in tongues much, and it does much good in my life. Spiritual edification, strenthening with might in the inner man, rest to the soul, praying for folks, even for those who may not deserve or warrant prayer. SIT is a proven truth in my life, something I cannot disgard, because it WORKs... Some other truths are: .... knowing one's sonship rights; salvation by grace; complete in Him... Golly, toss all those goodies out, and more? Not me.

Welcome, S. Craig. Please post some more...things are getting somewhat boring around here.

Did I say all was right in my world and nothing else matters? Take it easy Tonto... folks have varying experiences and we all don't think alike.

The only time I can recall turning off my brain, as you will, and trying the "blind obedience" principle, was my six months in the corps. I considered it a challenge to do that... to test my abilities. But as a Joe Believer, if I had a problem with a certain doctrine (tithing, for example) I took it to the top. Didn't get an answer that satisfied me ... oh well. At that point in time, I pretty much stopped tithing anyway, because it just didn't make sense to me. I gave what I felt like giving, and was happy.

There is no statute of limitations on felonies in Virginia. Statute of Limitations By State

I still do, tho' probably not as much as I should.

If it isn't, we are all in deep doo doo

I guess I'd go with normal jail time. On the one hand, he did commit the rape and therefore should be punished for it. On the other, he admitted it and apologized, and if he has no other crimes on his record, should get a reasonable sentence under those circumstances.

Good point Janny. Welcome, hope you stick around some.

Right on Sharon! Your turn.

Yes. Nobody got this one yet? I thought folks would get that in a heartbeat.

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Yeah, my blood’s so mad feels like coagulatin’ :lol:

Sorry Raf. "Bread"

The Guitar Man...

I forward all of my fake paypal and ebay emails to: spoof@paypal.com spoof@ebay.com They say they investigate the fake emails when you do that.

Rape was one of the allegations that was never proven in court. That's kinda what is nice about an actual trial ... the prosecution has a chance to prove an allegation, beyond a reasonable doubt. Until then, the defense is considered innocent, until proven guilty.

Mex, I appreciate learning these things while in twi, as well. Here are a few others off the top of my head, that helped me lots: Learning that God loved me and forgave my sins Christ in You, the Hope of Glory Sealed with Holy Spirit As He Is Complete in Him Sonship Rights Palms of God You Are Righteous Now Biblical Truths: Get to Whom Correct

djs, who gets retro retirement? Are you talking about folks who worked on staff for 20 or more years, who, because of the past legalistic policies, had to leave or were booted? Golly, it would be great if these folks, these long-time faithful staff believers, could get retro retirement!

Hi djs, Thanks for your input, and I hope you stick around and share your thoughts and opinions.

Thanks Bramble. I think 1989-1993 were still twi-1 in the sense that there was little legalism to speak of, and the programs that VP initially set up were still "available". Then in 1993 things really changed for the worse. Abundant legalism, programs being dismantled, much less freedom, purges, etc. So that's where I'd start referring to twi as twi-2, around 1993. I'd refer to twi-1 as before that.

About a year and a half ago, dmiller was kind enough to send me a copy of the 37-page letter dated February 26, 1987, from John & Pat Lynn, Tom Reahard, Ralph D. and Robert Belt, to the Five Trustees, explaining why they were leaving. If anyone is interested, I will be happy to email you a PDF.

It is only fair that you try to answer my question first, then I will try to answer yours. Have a great weekend, I'm outta here. :)

Sirguessalot, I got the following brief definition of idolatry from the Catholic Encyclopedia Online: I think that sums it up pretty well. The way I understand it, it looks to me like two key ingredients are required for the practice of idolatry: (1) elevation of something/someone to the level of a God, (2) then, worshipping that something/someone in place of the true God.