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Thanks for all of the warm welcomes. Yes Victor is still around and yes he is still drop dead gorgeous! But I think thats part of the danger.

I did happen to take Momentus and I would say that my life did not get any better for it. I of course won't blame anyone for my taking it although it was really encouraged. Just as I won't say that it ruined my marriage. But I will say this anytime you have sleep deprivation, loud music and people screaming at you it's going to affect you somehow. I put my whole heart into it like I had been taught to do with everything, and boy it was hell. Granted some sins I had comitted had come out which I suppose in essence is good, but I know there was a better way. Shall we say a more Christ-like way? I didn't end up in the hospital as some did but I did end up striking out physically to others which was not my nature. And how devilish is this .... about I assert? Who in the hell was I to judge anyone and thats exactly what it encouraged. Yes it is true that we are not to lie but does that mean we go around and spew our thoughts all over the place? I was told by my husband after Momentus during one of our little chats that he desired to have sex with our church leaders wife. Now did I need that tidbit of truth? I should say not. I know from the experience it led to a lot of disobedience from we women in the church. Also a lot of false prophesy was going around at that time...yuck! So was Momentus evil? I will not speak for others but I wouldn't take it again and you can put that as my ephitat on my gravestone....for those who took it.

I wish I could have seen that one. He does have a camper a cabin and a lodge. Yes he brings girls there. Drunk... no but that depends on if were talking alcohol.

Atrue son as I was taught is one who walks in the ways of hie father such as in the footsteps of Abraham. Victor Benard is who started this group, I don't know if you know him or not but trust me if you know V.P. you know Victor.

Has anyone attended this and what was your experience like?

I'm looking for more information on what TWI was like during the time period of the 13th way corp can anyone help me or were you in at that time period? Thanks so much!

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Hi all, Linda is right I am not really his grand-daughter but am a daughter so to speak of one of his true sons. I was in river Road Fellowship in Minnesota. I am glad to be here, although I don't drink coffee - hehe.

I was put under the impression that V. P. loved the jews and also had people read "The Hiding Place" by Corrie Tenboom as a way of being prepared in your heart if it were ever to happen again.

HAHA that picture is hilarious! I no longer stick to the 2 drink limit myself but 2 of those would literally kill me.

This one of the first posts that I readbeing a newbie. As I have shared I belonged to a spin off group of TWI. But the ways were the same. We completely separated ourselves from our earthly families. No holidays, weddings anything got in the way of the church. Now I am separated from my daughter who still lives with the church and also divorced from my husband who still lives with the church. To top it off two of my sons that did leave with me are off on their own because of huets within ourselves because of the church.

Is there room for my story here? I really need to talk about all of this. I was not involved in TWI either but was involved in a similar setting with those that either left The Way or were kicked out. I will begin with saying this, I had a very rough childhood and through it all I always had a desire and a love for God but no real knowledge. I met a man in 1990 who been a member of TWI. He seemed so loving and kind. At that point he wasn't twigging but he and I would talk about The Word for hours on end. I soaked it up and even read all of the books over and over again. He began going back to fellowship and I sooner or later followed him. I took PFAL in 1991. I felt so good to finally have gotten over my fear when I spoke in tongues. As the years went on we went through many things, children, being fellowship helpers but also physical abuse and alot of control issues. We weren't even allowed to marry until we took the Momentus class. Boy what a mistake that was. The church was meeting monthly for a long time in rec centers or the such while weekly we were meeting in private homes. But then a camp was purchased and the leadership all moved up north. We were told that it was available to move up or we would have no leadership. As you guess we were already in a posistion of thinking we needed this leadership in order to survive. so I'd say 99.9 % of the people moved up. Slowly but surely things became more and more controlled. Eat this, dress like this. don't do this you know. It seemed that there was never enough time in the day to do all that was expected so of course we only saw each other at meals or twig. I'm leaving much out for time sake but after reading a lot of the posts here I can say that it was very similar. Two years ago I was asked if I would consider taking my son away from the church as to protect it from him. My husband was not involved in this decision but did not come with us either. So after all those years in the church I was down here with 4 kids on my own. Believing I would receive help as promised only to find I was mistaken. Now I am divorced, my 2 sons have left both on bad terms. I am with 2 young daughters while one remains in the church and we never talk. Their father of course never visits. But the hardest thing to deal with is how all of this is coming to a clearer picture for me and of course my children don't understand it all and are very angry at me. I need help, they need help. Please if anyone knows a way home so to speak let me know. I deal with tons of fear, mistrust, anger and hurt that I know does not come from God.

When I was very young my parents divorced. I lived with my mother and siblings of course. Throughout the years I heard nothing but bad about my father from my mother and nothing but good about my father from my grandmother. Lo and behold I was a problem child and often heard the phrase you're just like your father. Not really knowing him it was like a piece of the puzzle was missing for me. As I grew and became involved in the ministry I was taught one side just as with my mother. But just as with my mother I also saw bad that was explained away. Now I'm on my own and am hearing about the other side which explains a lot of the bad that wasn't understandable before. So now in other words it's like sitting at my grandmas feet and hearing things but in the reversal. I hope this makes sense.

Hi, I'm new here and didn't know how to start so I decided here is as good a place as any. I was not involved in TWI per say but was considered a grand-daughter of V.P. After his death as you know many left and started ministries of their own and thats where I come in. Since 1990 I was in what is called River Road Fellowship. I must tell you I have much fear today writing of this. Now over the last couple of days I have been going through and reading a lot of the posts here and am just sickened to see the similarities. I only wanted my works to glorify God but now I am so messed up and scared I don't know what to do. :(