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Ummm does this ring loudly of "mark and avoid". Have we come full circle?
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Love her and bring her up to the level of the Word. God is not finished in her life yet Raf, don't give up on Him. Tears can be healing too.
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God is still bigger than anything that hits us, so we believe his Word and pray for your sister Raf. :) Happier days are still ahead.
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The biggest change they need is to rasie those hems on the "Singing Ladies". YUCH! they are so outdated.........
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Amazing, if you google The Way Ministries you come up with alot of interesting sites. Wonder what they will do next. http://www.theway.ws/ http://www.newwayministries.org/ http://www.hiswayministries.org/ http://www.bythewayministries.com/ http://home.earthlink.net/~lgtg/newwayministries/
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I do not endorse TWI at this time and I think their website stinks of old people in long drab clothes, however we are talking about the past and John's view be it fact or fiction, he does not have ALL the facts and chooses only to put the negative side on his site. I had some great times, met some wonderful people who are still in my life, I spoke in tongues and manifest the power of God in my life and for that I am eternally grateful to those who helped me along the way and yes Dr. Wierwille did too. That does not condone bad examples that people may have been. I appreciate that some went thru hell, earlier than other did but some did not and we do not have ALL the facts. And as for Eve, she saw it was good, she considered, desired and took it and ate. I do the same thing today with Krispie Cremes................and love them. Thank God our sins are forgiven.
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Since you missed the 70's perhaps that is what Oldies is defending. I was there too and I had great experiences until the 90's. So we do not all agree and I believe that if you look into ANY ministry you will find areas that are not functioning on the Word and others that perhaps may be. So I do not defend TWI today, nor do I condone some things that were done in the past but it was not all bad and the Word was taught so that most could understand it. Was it all accurate, hell no, it's not all accurate today either. Peace.............
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ww CLICK ABOVE how wonderful, congratulations and you know what they say "I'll drink to that".
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I apologize if I do not know how to handle quotes that well, but I have to tell you John that for all your effort to discredit TWI, you are very misinformed on many issues (not all but many) and that discredits your authority. You only heard the trash, you apparently never considered the good that was done in TWI. Sometimes I think there were two different ministries functioning. However; many believers had prayed for help and The Way came along and gave them that, I was one of them. Do you think if they asked God for bread he would give them a stone? I give you credit in that you may have ministered to and helped many believers get over some of their hurts, but as to being an authority on TWI and the Word, I do not agree. I also am not an authority on the Word but what I know I stand on. As for session 7, I think the Word speaks for itself as to what Eve did. It was not TWI's doctrine, it is clear from the Word what happened to Eve. Here I disagree with D Miller, NO ONE ever told me not to consider other viewpoints but TWI. I was taught to research the Word to find out what IT SAID. It's pretty clear that when it came to the WORD, that EVE did make these mistakes and it was very insightful of VPW to point this out. John the more you speak, the more you discredit yourself as an authority. I do feel you have an agenda. We don't have to agree on TWI doctrine, but I take exception with not agreeing on letting the Word speak. You have every right to believe what you want to and so do I. However; Jesus Christ is not and never was God........and I will not debate that, the Word stands clear no matter how one tries to twist it. In conclusion John, I am sorry you never got to see any of the good in TWI. I have to agree with Oldies, there does seem to be another agenda here. Maybe it's because we can all speak freely here. I wish you well.
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Actually if you really want to enjoy this clip, do it on fast forward, then it puts some zip into it. LOL :)
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"Return to the practice you had before joining the Way. If speaking in tongues was beneficial, then continue it if you wish. If, however, you began speaking in tongues during Power for Abundant Living or under Way tutelage, then do not continue this practice, because The Way is promoting a "different spirit" and counterfeit manifestations, as 2 Corinthians 11 describes. One finds evangelical believers who speak in tongues and others who do not. " What did you mean by The Way is or was promoting a "different spirit" and counterfeit manifestations? I have never had anyone whom I witnessed to not be able to speak in tongues. All believers can speak in tongues, this is not a PFAL teaching, it's the Word.........however, it's free will but they all can. So how is that a different spirit & counterfeit manifestations. I learned that I could speak in tongues from TWI, however I didn't have to take the class to do it? So what is the "different spirit & counterfeit manifestations. You are throwing out everything good that many loving leaders and believers taught and lived. NOT everyone was screwed up especially back in the 70's. There are a multitude of victory stories because of what was leaned in PFAL. Perhaps not all of it was accurate but who has the ALL truth today? No one...... Do you not believe in the manifestations of the gift of holy spirit? Did I read that you believe that Jesus Christ is God? Jesus was born, God was not. If you believe Jesus is God and you pray to Jesus, then God is not getting the prayer and worship he deserves and I disagree with any believer teaching others to pray to Jesus & believing that God is calling them to do that. Jesus Christ never taught this. Please tell me if I am misreading what you said. Every Christian church I have ever been in and I was raised in a big one, all pray to Jesus. This is wrong according to the Word of God. There is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. It was in his name, not to him. So I have to ask you what ministry is it that you really have if you are teaching that Jesus is God and not God being God. Your description of Jesus Christ, God and the Holy Spirit are very very different from traditional churches. Most of them teach that Jesus is God........Jesus is The Father. They teach a trinity and that word never, never appears in the Bible. I am only asking because I would like to know your beliefs to clarify your teachings against TWI or what you disagree with them on.
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I am wondering if anyone knows where Kerry Whitehead is. She lived in Ohio and was in the Way Corpse around 78 or 79 to 81/82 Want to see if I can find her for a friend who has not seen her since 84..................... thanks in advance
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I loved America Awakes, Stevie Kay and Billy Falcon and "My Life's Dream" was an all time favorite. Used it alot in witnessing. WTG 70's.