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Not even the "it is written" part. If someone could show me I'd appreciate it. Who was this Jesus? Where were these things written?
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good points Danny that helps... and i thought of this in a fashion as i posted especially with the curse in there why would god a loving god curse his own creation? double back to the life that Adam received from the spirit coming to a head in the life of one man who emptied himself to be one with the Father one with the spirit, and defeated the curse...forever and for everyone 1 John 5: 6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
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Malachi 3 8Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. 10Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 11And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts. 12And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts. I don't think this is not about money at all but offering ourselves, our lives and input and conversation.
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Body Soul and Spirit revisited...
dancing replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
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Body Soul and Spirit revisited...
dancing replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
another day another dollar or somethin.... finally found the right shoes for work at walmart and spent that dollar..lol.. what i was looking for was never on the aisle it had been before the next aisle had em, crazy people reorganizing all that!! i was used to my aisle for my shoes so i changed...again.... and faith met faith or eye met shoe and bingo we walked off together!!! actually it was a different shoe then the ones i was used to but it had all the markings of the great comfort i was looking for and had found before wonder about soul meeting soul or spirit meeting spirit the same looking for each other though the shoe wasn't looking for me...lol...uh two shoes.. remove myself completely out and see what's in me hmmmm...when the mind is used to it's self, easy to sleep thru it some get fed up with the answers that aren't quite the walk that the talk says FEAR of CHANGE!!!!!! FEAR of LOOSING something.... well if you really got it you can't loose it change change change....but also rest and that change brings with it all that i am because i am and we are btw i didn't get any change at walmart, i charged it :) but my feet will be happy! -
Body Soul and Spirit revisited...
dancing replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
To think that there may be an actual living epistle of the heart, expanding in it's depth and reach and spiritual words. Tied together in unity with us all yet as individual as we each are. "I AM" is that one person or all or both? To speak without an intent to ensnare but to put on the table, that which we can all chew on together, for the writer is hearing also. Not some ego type I have the answers, but that you all have the answers. And they just keep coming like the Lord. And not to overfill the bottle lest it burst, but to drop a few sips of new wine out of a new bottle. Who were these people that wrote the bible? Surely the same questions were asked of them. For their writings are still widely misunderstood and kept in an old bottle. -
Very well put MarkO. Check this out. http://www.danasoft.com/sig/Thereyouare.jpg If you dare hahaha..lol :) It's harmless but shows what is seen. There are no secrets on the internet. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%...G=Google+Search
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Body Soul and Spirit revisited...
dancing replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
I am From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search I am can refer to: A common Biblical translation of an Aramaic idiom. In the original language, it translates in an interlinear, direct fashion as: "I I" (Aramaic uses a double reference to self when being emphatic about an action verb; e.g., "I-baptize-I you with water..." from Matthew 3:11 of the Aramaic Pe....ta; however "I I" -- with everything and nothing between the "I"s -- is what is translated into English as "I am", with accompanying spiritual meaning; the first occurrence of "I I" in the New Testament is in Matthew 14:27 of the Pe....ta). The first person singular present tense form of the main copular verb in English (to be) Some scholars believe it is the most meaningful English translation of Yahweh in Hebrew ('YHVH', יהוה), but this interpretation is disputed -
Body Soul and Spirit revisited...
dancing replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
3Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; 4He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. 5After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. -
Body Soul and Spirit revisited...
dancing replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
well..by god i'll respond.... one can see when looking at the great spiritual vastness of the universe yet why are we to limit the spirit that is beyond it and within within our vast universe of the mind the spirit is so unknown, barely seen and a fine offering it is indeed -
here is a site that is commendable- http://www.filehippo.com/
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hi Tom, Google is one of the most trusted assoc. imo.. Yahoo is questionable, so i only use a few of their perks. The Wikipedia toolbar is a search engine for Wikipedia with a pop up blocker, and mail checker. Things can always change though. I use a number of programs to keep my computer clean as best I can. To date I've had no problems with anything. Except the mistake of having my e-mail address on a forum profile. Yahoo has a good spam blocker so that's the one I use if I need to. My main e-mail address I don't give out except to trusted people. It has a junk mail filter too and between the two I think I have everyone blocked by now on it...lol...everyone meaning the junk mail senders. I'm sure there will be more though. I don't keep any sensitive data on my computer though, like my SS#, bank #, or credit card #'s. I always need many recommendations to use a program. I'll run it through the mill so to speak. I watch Microsoft's MVP's, newsgroups, various forums and common sense.
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http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?searc...olewordsonly=no i think this narrows it a bit.
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Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
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Those of this world couldn't see it. But Jesus became one with the Father not the God of genesis. Jesus could see it because he became and was not of this world. Jesus overcame this world. John 16:32-33
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I think a God got nailed to a cross and died. So another,-another comforter could come. John 14: 15If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
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the more i read, the more i see Danny, been reading a bit on gnostic and gnostic/jewish thought certainly believable..... wisdom, spirit, like a serpent...
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this is how i set mine up i also have yahoo and wiki's toolbars in there but they are hidden
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in considering this chapter, this stands out to me 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
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I kind of understand Danny, have to give it some time. Didn't want to leave you hangin' here...lol... Clay
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http://www.google.com/tools/toolbar/buttons/apis/index.html add buttons to your google toolbar i have wiki a dictionary a bible and more on mine highlight a word on a web page and they show that there is something to lookup on the button they have buttons already for you or you can make your own
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So as this perspective changes of God, even so he lives. whether of death unto death or life unto life. He lives in us and is being born in us. So in a sense he is saving himself while saving us. Who had to have Jesus killed to bring us life? The same one that rewarded Jesus with a name above all names. The plan was God's plan, the knowledge of GOOD and EVIL. Two God's if you will.... with the one overcoming the other and knowing it. The tree of Life.
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I think it's a matter of perspectives Danny, and not two God's and two worlds. All things are supposed to become new, same things they will just be new.
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I think it lies squarely on how one perceives God as to interpreting what he says to do. The purpose and reasoning of people has everything to do with how one takes what God says to do. And that is what God has to work with, with each one of us. Isn't this true of what we have to deal with today in our own lives? How was God perceived in the minds of the Hebrews? How was God perceived in the minds of others? Death was imminent, whether by the sword or natural causes. How do you think this affected people? How do think this affected God? The example of Abraham going to sacrifice his son comes to mind. As for Moses, he didn't war with anyone as I recall. It was after his death that many wars occurred. What does that mean you may say. Well...Moses was much closer to God then Joshua and the rest, until Jesus. Just a little tidbit of info.
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here's some more, mostly on line http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...terlinear+bible