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At Corps level, you have to explain why your believing was so poor that you let in devil spirits that caused the lightbulb to blow. Then, your coordinator calls in Multi-Services Dept and a few days later, a crew of 6 arrives to change the bulb.

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Interesting old thread this. Pity it deteriorated. I really did want some answers, about whether we'd recognize any "gift ministries." But thinking about it: Is a prophet a difficult person to live with, really? Sure, on occasions they might speak out with boldness and p1$$ off a lot of "authorities." But let's think. Jesus... one who always spoke out for God. A prophet, therefore. Had loads of buddies who hung around with him. Males as well as females. They wouldn't have done that if he were difficult to be around. Paul, the apostle Paul: one who after his dramatic meeting with Jesus on the road to Damascus, again always spoke out for God. A prophet, therefore. Travelled all the Med area with a faithful band of followers (only males mentioned, doesn't exclude there being women followers). Was welcomed into the houses of those to whom he spoke. They wouldn't have done that if he were difficult to be around. Visited some people, or groups of people, many times. I'm sure that in both OT and NT times, there were those who might have been deemed prophets and, just like anyone else, some were easy to get on with, and some were less so. If you attend a decent church, you might find that some clergy are easier to be around than others. I think that this saying by the (in)famous wannabe prophet VPW was just his excuse for his failure to address his genuine lack of people-skills. He didn't want to put the effort into "pastoring" them, but did want to terrify people by "confronting" them. Thus, he says that prophets are hard people to live with - and supplies his own excuse for being obnoxious and manipulative.

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Now, what was hard was coming from overseas, and my friends from overseas came to RoA (it's surprising how many came, none of them had much money, and the airfare was huge). I didn't have time to see them, and would have to beg for an hour off work to spend time with them on their departure day. The year I was leaving, after two years in rez, all of them took something back with them (books and such like that I'd acquired, Corps notes). Very kind of them, but getting this stuff to them was hard work as there was no time to meet up! But these overseas visitors did have a great time. I was pleased for them. Lots of fellowship with like-minded believers. A sense of vision, coming from a small country with only one large fellowship, and to enjoy thousands of other people from many other countries (though mostly, of course, from the USA).

I like camping. In a tent. A little one. Yes, really, I do. Though the only tent I stayed in at RoA was the big Corps tent. One year in Founders Hall (really??), and one year (graduation year) in the Corpstels (horrible, very cramped, and far too hot).

Rock of Ages class ??!! After my time... did you say Class !!??

Oh, by the way, I'm talking early 90s. US Corps were supposed to come for Corps week, later reduced in time period; then stay and serve at RoA. That must have been tough, for family holidays, because annual leave allowances are so very mean in the USA. No leave left to visit family or take a (real) holiday in another location. Maybe you should be pressing your govt to allow longer paid holidays as workers' rights? (Yeah, that'll really happen with this administration!) In other words, US workers are used to being exploited.

As a matter of fact, I rather enjoyed RoA set-up while I was in rez. It was mostly a fun time. A lot more laid back. Working outdoors, and generally a fun crew to mess around with. Everyone was more relaxed, but more focused. Yes, it was hard work at time, but at mid-afternoon (or whatever) break, there was lots of fresh fruit and water to re-hydrate. Evenings were often a lot of ground work, but that was better than the interminable classes and re-runs of How to Floss One's Teeth, or Song Leading. Got to pay (ie work) with people who might otherwise have been stuck in offices and who otherwise I might not have met. We scrubbed all the portable chairs and then they were all strung in the Big Top. Scrubbing the chairs seemed sensible; sometimes they weren't very clean. They looked neat when set out - but of course they never stayed in neat lines. Scrubbed portaloos. Set out tables, cloths, the chicken frying thing (wonder if they still have that?) Planted flowers early, so that the flower beds would be lovely when people came. I think if all that work had been going n (by contractors) I'd've been ticked off that I couldn't have been involved. I seem to recall that as the Rock neared, we worked whole days (ie, lost Study Hall for half a day) and I did resent that. But it was fun, preparing everything to bless the visitors. Is volunteer labour a bad thing? I don't think so. I think of the hugely popular festival that takes place at Glastonbury most years. A lot of people like to vol for that, as litter-pickers, set-up before and after, etc. They do it because they get a free ticket to the event. I vol'd at the Christian tent at Glasto (free ticket, yay!) (Springsteen the headline act! yay!!). Clearer-uppers in the weeks afterwards get paid minimum wage with few perks, but there's still plenty that want to do that. Perhaps that's the case with most festivals, commercial or free.

FIFTEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Allan! (One being your own, no doubt, but who runs the rest?)

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Thanks, T-Bone. Thank God there are decent, caring, ministers (and lay people) in congregations well outside TWI. Nobody in my church knows what I went through; it's never really arisen to talk about it. But I truly believe that church minister spoke as the spirit moved him, and brought healing to me and I believe to others as well. And nobody needs to know: God knows, and He can meet needs in private ways that help and heal without causing further hurt or even just embarrassment. I am seriously thankful for the people in that church who just gave me space - patience and time - for the people in that church, and in other churches, and for my pre-TWI friends. People who have loved me quietly through a very difficult time when I was seriously unlikable. Moving on from my church minister's apology, I'd suggest that it befits all of us to think of the words that come out of our mouths, that they minister grace and healing to other people. If we are responsive to the Spirit, and empathetic when people talk to us, we can help others without us even knowing what hurts them. God will give us the words that people need to hear [or see written down!].

Just bumping this up. For some reason, this thread has been on my heart lately. Perhaps there is someone here who needs to read this. (I'm sure Grace VC will get to it eventually)

Insight into life - yarrghh - in a cornfield Insight into love - love? What the f--- did VPW know about love? Insight into the Word- ditto, Should be edited to read, "Insight on many topics including bullying, lust, rape and manipulation."

I can do all those things. I can also discern BS when I see it.

You won't get nightmares, Grace, but the book will probably stick in your memory. The author says that all of the scenarios have happened or are happening to women. Be thankful for the choices and freedoms you have; be empathetic towards, and if possible, help, those who have less freedom, now.

One more to go! Last episode was The Bridge (Janine with her baby on the bridge) (among other things). Looking forward to Sunday (last episode). Got the book on order from the local library: time for a re-read. Of course, finding time to actually read the book is entirely another matter.

OldSkool - where did you get this photo? How did you get it?

Actually, I was thinking about this phrase "to the ministry." And yes, we can "believe for it." It's just that we want to bring success to the MINISTRY OF JESUS CHRIST (which we, as the body of believers, have the privilege to do, to minister his blessing to others) - but NOT to bring success of any kind to the "ministry" of TWI. No way.

"Material abundance to you and the ministry" - yeah, right, prosperity gospel. I guess Paul when he was in prison wasn't enjoying prosperity gospel... he must have been so badly out of fellowship...just acquiring spiritual abundance, so that he could write "the prison epistles" with all that great revelation that TWI so reveres. And so many of the OT prophets were out of fellowship. And what of some OT kings, who had great abundance? Like Ahaz: rich? Yep. In fellowship? Nope. So bad that he wasn't buried in the kingly tomb.

Crib is a card game can be played by two, three or four players. Scores are made by making 15 or 31 points in play (that gets two holes), then whatever is in a person's "hand" of four cards. First to 121 holes (points) wins. It's quite easy but the skill is in the play. I learned from a young age and to this day (not far from retirement) add up quicker in 15s than in 10s!

Cribbage is my game. My great grandfather taught me. I'm not smart enough for bridge. (Or more, I can't be bothered to apply my mind to the game.)

CP2 "Doctrinally and practically" - goodness me, are they going to get some external teachers in to teach this aspect? Cuz there ain't not nobody there that could do that. ... Gross! ...

CP5: "Go forth as leaders and workers in areas of concern, interest and need..." "...in the household." Would be of concern, interest and need to this group of people? (Mt 10:36) And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. Can you imagine (ROFLMAO) that shower at TWI lovingly serving their enemies?