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It's not a scripture slug-fest, Waxit. That's a very TWI-thing ("I know better scriptures than you do"). And don't indulge in adding words in your own PI. I (and many others) have stated a different view, which you cannot accept. Fine. End of. It's not even what scriptures one knows - it's the ones one acts upon, puts into practice, that matter. And you cannot see the entire outworking of my faith - but the Lord does - and those who have eyes to see, do.

The one I have asked you at least four times. And others have asked you also. You can either: admit you don't bother to read threads in sufficient detail, and therefore request me to post the question again; or You can read the entire thread, find the question, and answer it.

From what I gather, Donna certainly helps Rosalie make her bed - and lie in it. LOL!

A little off topic, this, but seems reasonably relevant to where the discussion is currently. A version of this was in my Inbox this evg; I chose this one because the words are also shown:

By the same token, I ask that you don't avoid or ignore the question I asked YOU four times already - and others have also asked the same. You answer first. Go ahead. Succinctly. In your own words. After all, this is what you also recently said: So, answer :)

Waxit said: You said that. I say: we are TO GET TO KNOW JESUS, THE CHRIST. Waxit, do you consider you know Jesus, the Christ? Or do you just know a book about him? And if you consider that you know Jesus, why are you dissing those who also say they know Jesus - but think differently? You're the only one who has real knowledge? Everyone else knows a false Jesus, maybe? Do give that some serious thought. Be not quick to judge others... (now where have I read that? (rhetorical question)).

I haven't fallen out with you, Waxit. But I (and many others here) would prefer that you be brief and to the point, and address questions asked of you in simple manner. I'm still waiting... well, no, I don't expect you to answer now.

Is this what you're looking for, T-Bone? https://www.amazon.com/Holman-CSB-The-Passion-Bible/dp/1586401688/ref=sr_1_21?crid=1SU0DXIIF7CSD&dchild=1&keywords=the+passion+bible&qid=1589841430&sprefix=the+passion+%2Caps%2C231&sr=8-21 Been around for quite a long time, and is both OT and NT. First (c) 1999. Very readable, good footnotes. Various other notes and tables at the end. I note there's something else around called "The Passion Translation" - don't know if it's also published by Holman - different sort of logo on the "Passion" name.

Gabe. There is no need to be sarcastic. I have already told you, personally, that I am really busy at the present time. I have stated my own view and understanding on the current topic, several times, succinctly. You may find it helpful to read what others including myself have written, to gain understanding. Please don't think that by your many words and protestations you are convincing anyone. Quite the contrary. You would do much better if you answered questions put to you (of which, genuine answers are there few) and said, succinctly, in few words, what it is you feel you need to say. The tone of your posts is regrettably rather show-offish and it appears you think you, and you alone, have all the Bible knowledge and understanding, together with comprehensive understanding of some version of Greek, and the rest of us here have no knowledge or understanding, and are not entitled to any view at all. You think we are completely wrong. It may be that you are completely wrong, however. Time and again, people have presented thoughtful study against your own view, and you have dismissed them. That's not honest on your part.

Like your post, T-Bone. My "Passion Bible" (HCSB) gives Rom 10: as this: Reading through to the end of this section of Romans, I'm really happy that "No one who believes on Him (or, on God) will be put to shame" (HSCB, quoting Is 28:16, rather than believing in some laws given to a different group of people in a different time. It seems easier to believe on God, on Jesus, on the direct promises of salvation. And then, our actions and good deeds flow as an outworking of our faith, our believing on Him (James 2, among other places). Our actions and good deeds might include sabbath-keeping, among other things; having a rest from our worldly work, setting aside those things for fellowship with God and God's people - very worthwhile, to set aside "A" day, any day, to do this.

Right. The goal of the law is to get to know Jesus, the Christ. Get to know the Man, the King, the Shepherd, the Redeemer. The goal of the law IS NOT to get to observe any specific day, or time, or season. We are to do as Jesus did, in heart, soul, mind, and strength. That means: loving and obeying God. And then, loving our neighbours (=those around us, those we come into contact with). It doesn't mean: following all the ritual that Jesus followed, and much of which he poo-poo'd.

That is a very powerful poem at the start of Simon's talk, isn't it! Yes. Get out there and DO - don't just talk (or think) about doing. Love this, T-Bone: … the lawyer and every single one of us.

A bit maybe, but this chapter of James was discussed in my church's talk (sermon) on Sunday last. Simon, who gives the talk, definitely puts his actions into what his mouth says. The reading (by one of the children in the congregation) starts at about 39:15, and the talk is about 10 mins, less than 15, and full of challenges to line up our lives better.

Pagan Warrior - that is EXACTLY what we do here.. As no doubt you've read.

Hello, Scott, and welcome to the Café. Have a cake from the great selection here, to accompany that coffee from T-Bone. I was in rez early 90s and boy! did I learn some interesting language from Loy-boy. As you say - very far from Christ-like. Good on you for taking a stand and getting out to get some education. It's doubtless done you more good than endless sessions cleaning things that don't need it, for the umpteenth time, and all the incessant meetings to be told the same things over and over again. Marked and avoided = badge of honor. Here's your cake choices:

Don't you think that one of the principal things we need to remember is: keep it simple. God is not the author of confusion, of making life difficult, of being oppressive, of bondage. God wants freedom and for us not to be entangled with religious dogma. So what's a simple way of reading verses that some might describe as "difficult"?

Yeah, sucks when the Quote thing doesn't work properly. I'll read the article you reference later. Gotta go to work now. Yep, still working, can I have a few more hours in the day please? so much to do nowadays.

Good lord, Waysider. America surely does know how to over-react.

And if all else fails, just take a trip to Versailles.

Solzhenitsyn was a pretty awesome writer. We do well to carry out our own "daily acts of integrity" - and in this, I'm thinking (perhaps because I just finished reading Schindler's Ark (aka Schindler's List)) about the brave men and women who helped rescue many people condemned by Nazis as unworthy of life; also of the doctor in Wuhan who tried to alert the world to coronavirus and who was squashed by the state there; not to mention the KSU students' protest. There are events, trends, in all societies - yours, mine - that demand that we don't blindly follow the crowd. That's no small ask.

Rubina, I will PM you.

Shoot, you guys in the USA as at 20 mins ago are here. Please stay safe, keep your distance, wash hands. Lockdown is temporary. Your finances will improve. Death is permanent. You can't take your money with you. Deaths 71,148 +877

In the UK, I'd expect that an organisation of this kind would have to distribute its assets to another organisation with similar aims (say, CFFM? Yeah, right, that'll happen, LOL). I simply cannot see that happening. Rubina, the assets include: land; buildings (both on the land and perhaps elsewhere); cash; investments; equipment (that could be depreciated down to not much, or even nil) (even though it has a resale value, so if sold the price is part of the cash assets); goodwill; intellectual property. (I would price the latter two at Nil.) The land and some of the buildings could be quite valuable: that in Ohio could be good farming land again, with associated buildings and machinery; and that in Gunnison could be a great holiday resort, and the farmland associated with that (yes, there is farmland!) could also be sold off for farming. I don't see NK being the height of a residential (or industrial) building bonanza, but the "Log Cabin" (LCM's family home, that was built for visiting Corps) could be sold off as a stand-alone property and again could be worth a fair bit. They can sell what they want, when they want, just needs to be at a "fair value" (ie, no flogging off to Rosalie for $20). There was a lot of money in the bank. DK how much now; used to be upwards of £65m.

Thank God this more or less passed me by. I'd'a been, what, 15 or so, no real understanding, and not such a big deal in the UK. UK was involved, though. No draft. I liked CSNY, but never realised this was a "protest song" and never knew about this incident.

GVC, welcome back, long time no see. Hopefully, it will disintegrate entirely. But what will happen to the assets? Are its assets held by a corporation, limited liability company, partnership, trust, or what? I know what they say in annual filing reports but I wonder if a little selective distribution or whittling of assets has taken place. You can be sure that none of it will be coming the way of those who contributed (us lot!).