Twinky

miss chrispy... can't stay away from GSC! niKa & ex10 these folks look like they're up to no good! (but probably not twinky or eyes open) THE man... THE legend the smiling faces of 'our host' and Tonto looking good, even in B&W niKa & DWBH

Interesting... Would that be with a bow tie on the handlebars, or a conventionally tied tie lying across the fuel tank? Never let yourself get amputated from the Body of Christ, folks. (Even you, George.) WW: When I was these young people's ages, I was getting sucked into TWI by an impressively open young man who seemed to have a lot of answers and always seemed to get his prayers answered. He was a good guy - M&A'd now, of course, long since. They dropped him as soon as he confronted some leadership who weren't doing what was right.

Okay, who's been reading Tim LaHaye's "Left Behind"? :)

Believe it or not I've been on weekend hiking trips with a shared evening meal and dessert has been fruit dipped in chocolate fondue. For saying people like to hike light that's some going because fruit is so heavy. But it's always popular and quite a good way to laze around on a summer evening when you've done a long day's walk. You'd think it would be messy to clean the pan out but strangely enough there is never a shortage of volunteers to clean that pan.

One white whisker one side, 2 the other side, a few white hairs in the throat. When you see her in the light, she's really an extremely dark chocolatey brown colour which you can just make out on one of the photos. She's not exactly "fluffy" but her hair (fur) sticks out sideways rather than lying sleekly against her body, so she looks plumper than she really is. She has a lovely loud rolling purr.........

Anybody who's interested, this little girl has an album coming out on (I think) November 17. The proceeds are to go to charity.

Just an update: Twinkle is now in excellent health, shiny coat, put on a little weight that she had lost and isn't in the least deterred from exploring in the place she was last apparently located in the little wood next to the house. She is a determined scavenger and insists on eating bits of bread put out for birds. As well as scraps donated by the neighbors, other cats' food, and raiding her own food dish. Here's some photos (if I did this right).

They couldn't see the room (from reports I've read, some of which tend to fiction) but it wasn't far away and the complex was very close to where they were dining, just a couple of minutes' walk. It was a holiday location and clearly the parents felt relaxed in that environment. The parents said they checked back every 20-30 mins that the kids were okay and the kids were always asleep. Until one of them was missing... Many parents go out and leave their sleeping toddlers (if the kids normally sleep through the night and have no particular problems) while the parents take a brief break, so although it wasn't ideal, it wasn't heinous. I feel deep compassion for these people. Can't imagine how much time they must have spent in "If only" land. Think I read somewhere that they now accept that Madeleine might in fact be dead.

Okay, Oldies, let's start with you. Stop being anonymous, post your own photo, and give your real name. You're an anonymous finger pointer at plenty of other people on these boards.

The Portugese police have now finally decided not to do anything re the parents (having made them "official suspects") and have now resumed their regular (?) line of enquiry and are rattling the "usual suspects", ie, the local pedophiles and other ne'er do wells. Also the police evidence upon which they made the parents official suspects has been found faulty. I don't believe the parents are anything other than totally distraught parents doing their best to recover their lost daughter. They published a photo of her - she has an unusual eye with a line in it, very distinctive. That would be helpful if she had wandered off and got lost; but it might also have signed her death warrant - if she were still alive. The parents are getting a lot of church and community support, both in Portugal and in the UK.

He wants to be the "surprise guest" and will come dressed as Santa Claus.

In some ways this thread is more horrific than those relating sexual abuse. In those, we became aware of the predatory behavior of certain "leaders." It was obvious and premeditated. Conscious behavior. In this thread, we learn of the casual cruelty towards and disregard for believers at all levels, outside of sexual abuse. Complete lack of compassion or normal "human" responses. Jesus wept when somebody died: he knew the hurt in people's hearts. But TWI airily dismisses such with "Oh, she died" and next subject please? As for people with illnesses, tumors, where is the praying for the healing? Did EB ever pray for Liz's head, eyesight, or was that too demeaning a task? Where was his "believing"? This wicked behavior was often encouraged and endured in Corps Nights where somebody has had a terrible thing happen to them they got publicly reamed, and the WC was told in the CN "teaching" that we weren't to feel sorry for them or contact them to offer condolences (on pain of being DFAC'd). The offending (ha ha) persons were possessos, etc, etc. Oh yeah right. Bowels of mercies? Full of sh1t, more like. Romans 1 (NIV) 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. I need a long walk in the fresh air.

Maybe "on the deck" doesn't mean the same to you as it does to me. You're gonna need that hot tub for more than bathing in if you do mean "on the deck". Will scare those dust bunnies just a bit.

Lots of threads here about "believing" and misuse of the word. Shifra's tie-in on this thread with tithing is interesting. I still see/hear it taught... "I put in (into the horn of plenty) $x and the next day yyy sent me a check for $xxxx;" or "I put in $x and the next day got a new job." Worse: "I hadn't got much money so I put in $x and believed God to give money back to me." That sounds like a CONTRACT at best: I give you $10 but you have to give me $100 back. That's not believing. But some of those same fold don't see it as a contract the other way: God gives you $100 therefore you must give $10 back. Either way, it's straight-out contract law. Not quite the attitude of gratitude/thankfulness with which tithing (or any thing) should be given. But really so much of this now smacks of BRIBERY. As if a man could bribe God. God LOVES to bless us and give us the desires of our hearts. He does know what our needs are, financial and otherwise. (edited cos it didn't read quite right in the contract bit)

Call 'em what you like. They'll only come if they want to. :D

Oh, we're back to that "believing to receive" thread again! Sorry, it clearly jogged some horrible memories. As did that reference to "horn of plenty". Seeing those things anywhere now really makes me queasy. But this makes me thinK: as a symbol maybe we had it back to front. We put in at the big end and (the benefit) comes out the small end... Like so much Way stuff - a good analogy totally turned to face the opposite direction.

Well dunno about you lot but I'd think it was a lot more balanced if it had books and music by other than VPW and LCM. Even stuff done by other banned ex TWI (Walter Cummins, for example). And ex-TWI songs like say Acts 29...or anybody. Obviously still plugging LCM's book - so he's obviously not a "possesso" and his work not banned or burned as so many other people's who have fallen out of favour with TWI. Make of that what you will. That's without promoting any decent non-Way stuff. Sad. Can't somebody post a link to GSC on their board?

Frumpy is hardly the word. Men and women. They could dress better from the local charity shop. They (well, the women) are hardly this: PS 45:13 All glorious is the princess within her chamber; her gown is interwoven with gold. or this: Prov 31:22 She ... is clothed in fine linen and purple What a sad "advert" for God's abundance.

Two great beating up weapons: 1. You lack spiritual understanding 2. You are not meek to the Word. Probably many of those who "lacked spiritual understanding" were a sight further on in understanding and meekness to what the Word really says, than those doing the beating up. The bullies were/are all puffed-up with their understanding of the WORDS of the Word, not the meaning of the words. Too busy admiring the cloth to consider that it should have been turned into clothing to be worn.

Still thinking about this, Ex10 invited me. Sounded so much fun last year. :) An ink pin (pen)? As opposed to a what? A writing in blood pen? (Always thought that was a funny expression. Maybe Texans should learn to say "pen". Oops, there goes my invitation...)

Sure they do! Can you imagine if even half the Cafe members turned up en masse to seek forgiveness? Can you imagine Forgiving Father Rosie welcoming us with open arms? Any of 'em?

Hello Tom, are you joining us now? I think most of the Europeans are getting on with their lives. Who out there knows some non-Brits? I wonder if there are any E Corps out there?

Bless you my son ... consider yourself absolved. You saved a lotta heartache there. Nothing to feel guilty about then or now. Even though you felt it so.

..or ABused ! (It's the light shined by posts like those of Dot and other women who have been abused, that has exposed the wickedness of others and enabled healing to take place. Got the dirt out of the wound, so to speak.)

Some startling news: I was informed at lunchtime today that there are still apostles, prophets, etc, walking this earth today. This I agreed with. I was astonished to learn that there are in fact 12 apostles, only 12. As for prophets… Yes, I was accosted by two young men of about mid 20s bearing neatly engraved name badges announcing themselves as Elders of the Church of JC of Latter Day Saints. One did most of the speaking and the other nodded in assent. Me: “Only 12 apostles? That’s not many for the whole world.” Them: “Yes, that’s how many apostles Jesus had when he was on Earth, and not much has changed since then.” Me: “Only that JC was murdered, and now does not live on earth as he did then but is alive in the heavenlies. He wants everyone to know all over the world, not just a select few in the middle east." Them: “It’s his church and that’s the way he wants it.” Me: “So where are these apostles?” Them: “In our church.” Me: “What about other churches – Methodist, Baptists, Catholics, Anglicans, to name but a few?” Them: “This is the only true church. All those are just started by men, of their own authority, not with the authority of Jesus Christ. That’s why there are no apostles in those groups.” Me: “Don’t you believe God works in other churches? Don’t you think he wants them to know too? Why would there not be apostles to those churches too?” Them: “This is the true church. This is what JC set up. This is what he wants.” Me: “And what’s this about prophets?” Them: “There is only one prophet alive today. His name is xxx. He is in our church. But the head of our church is JC.” Me: “Do you not think that JC cares about other people, in other churches?” Them: “This is the true church. This is what JC set up. This is what he wants.” Me: “If you cut yourself off from other Christians, you are simply a cult and putting God in a box and putting JC in a box. Do you think JC wants that?” Them: “We are not a cult, we are a church.” Me: “If you cut yourself off from the rest of the Body of Christ, you are making yourselves a cult.” Them: “We are not a cult, we are a church.” I asked them about speaking in tongues. Did they believe this existed? If so, what was it for? Them: “So that if you can’t speak another language very well, the Holy Ghost can give you better ability to speak to people in another country. Also, if you only know a few words in another language, it can make you fluent in that other language if you need to speak to somebody.” Me: “What about prayer and praise to God?” Them: (nervous smile) “Yes, so that you can speak to other people.” And this: Them: “Do you think the church is built on the Bible?” Me: “What sort of answer do you expect me to give?” Them: “We don’t just read the Bible. We have other books too that we study. Our church is built according to those.” This only lasted for five minutes or so. I left feeling sad and deeply sorry for these young men. They do not understand the wedge they are building in their own lives; have no idea of the hurt that lies in wait. I thought of all the WoWs over the years, all the WC, the Lightbearers, and their cult-head attitudes. Is this what we sounded like? We couldn’t see it then; these young men cannot see it now. They are into a MOGdom of their own and holding fast not to the Head of the Church but to their prophet as his spokesman and the 12 apostles in whatever their role is. No doubt the young men have a desire for God and the lord Jesus Christ; I pray that they will sort out the truth from the error before they are themselves sorted out and hurt. (For the avoidance of doubt: I comment not on the beliefs or doctrine of this organization; just on the blinkers on these young men’s hearts.)