Twinky

Ya know what? I know I'm NOT in a screwed up cult. I'm out of one. I escaped. (Actually, I was thrown out. Clearly not screwed up enough, LOL.)

Hey, Ex10, I reached out the phone several times to ring you, but things just seemed to keep happening at home to have to deal with. Will give you a ring this weekend, Saturday maybe, if that works for you.

Hey, blessings, beautiful. Sorry I missed the date - hope you and yours had a great time together. Twinx

Are those women all his bits on the side? They all look the same. He's just like Rod Stewart. Carbon copy blondes on his arm. He's the only one who gets any older in photos. The girls have a shelf-life of only a few years.

Of course, "having sense" presupposes not too much Waybrain. But if any WC do have debt, clearly they are not fully TWI reduced (sorry, renewed) minded yet. Folks, there's still a way out. Declare your debt, get dropped, and live abundantly.

The Way Corps Who Are In Debt - What will they do? If they have any sense, they will stay in debt (at sensibly manageable levels), say "yah boo sucks" to TWI, and get on with their lives and their families.

Soooo.... some people have been "partners" with CES. I recall a shedload of teachings about how "partners" "fully share" with each other. So is this partnership - one side of which is now begging money - also a partnership the other way? Like, if one of the partners has a financial need - does cash from from CES to the partner? A million to one, the partnership is : You give us your money; We give you (recycled) "teaching and support". So no full sharing, then. Clearly no-one is allowed to "teach" them.

:confused: Of the making of books there is no end.

Hey, I just found this. Did you get to see the whole movie, Kimberley? I saw it years ago (at the movies) and it's so memorable. Really enjoyed it.

I want to be someone who forgets this within 24 minutes.

...as opposed to walking all over the Bible, which is what TWI and splinters do?

Oh, anything to get a bit of money, and to increase the bondage upon the people providing the money. Some years ago, I got in conversation with a young Muslim woman - we worked at the same office. She told me that under Muslim law, everyone is required to give away 1/10 of his or her income. -To whom? I asked. -To anyone who needs it, she said. -Not to the mosque or Muslim leaders or charities? -No, wherever you want. -Can you give it to some local charity or to your friend or to your family? -Wherever you want, it can be anywhere. You're just supposed to give away that much. I was still rather Waybrained at the time, but it struck me how much freer she seemed to be that Way people. This from a lass in her mid 20s, with lowish-cut top and ordinary pants/trousers, bare-headed and made-up. Went to the mosque but enjoyed life too.

Weasel. As in "weasel words". Weasel words is an informal term for words and phrases that, whilst communicating a vague or ambiguous claim, create an impression that something specific and meaningful has been said. Weasel words manage to vaguely imply meaning far beyond the claim actually made. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words You know. Like on the Green card.

Rummie - happy to help, but you might find the following links useful. Not the obvious grocery store: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dgrocery&field-keywords=patak+mango+chutney&x=0&y=0 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dgrocery&field-keywords=patak+lime+pickle&x=15&y=17

Thanks, Belle Three income streams: (1) Social Security - so someone must have paid sufficient contributions; (b) TWI pension plan - woah, a pension plan is available, huh? (3) Mrs Wierwille's assets - uh, what assets? The family farm had been given over to TWI. Are we talking about the mothballed motorcycles, or what? How come she had any assets to speak of? Inherited from VPW, who cajoled them as free-will gifts out of "his keeds"? The letter presents a good argument. And Alzheimers sufferers are very hard work. However, as Mrs W had been "public property" for many years, it's a bit disingenuous to now call this "a family matter" - after all, aren't we all family, LOL? A magnifying glass is needed to be able to read between the lines and see what they are really saying.

RumRunner, I'm joining Kimberley beating your door down to share your meals....! Are you providing personal wheel kits so's people can haul their bellies around, after that enormous week of feasting?

Duck crown = basically the breasts off a duck, removed from the carcass. No wings or legs, just straight meat, in one lump. Joint of pork = a lump of pork (sometimes, though not in this case, with the bone still running through it.) Joint of beef = lump of beef. George, like steaks before they are cut into steaks. Curries = now surely you know what a curry is. One of these is Chicken Makhani (=in rich tomato sauce) and the other is a Veggie Dhansak. The smelly thing in the fridge was either a marrow, well really an overgrown courgette) which was quietly liquifying, or a bowl of beetroot that needed boiling up.

Shell, just found this and couldn't draw myself away. You write so well that your pain, confusion, despair - and now happiness - all show through. You've suffered some horrendous treatment; congratulations on surviving and now thriving. Your tale brings tears of sorrow to the eyes, anger at the ill-treatment, and laughter at your bizarre escape. All the best to you and Jeff. PS What an awesomely beautiful photo of your daughters!

In the fridge: milk, lots of vegetables, boxes of fruit juice, cheese, a few condiments, two sausages. And also something that smells horrible that I must investigate this evening. In the freezer: milk, bread, a duck crown, joint of pork, joint of beef, two curries, box of meatballs in gravy, butter, a whole trout, a few trays of ice cubes, some homemade stews in small portions, some homemade soup in small portions, other odds and ends. The milk and bread are bought when they are on special. Well, most things are really.

Abigail, sorry for your loss. Your uncle has died, "full of days" and peacefully at home. That's a comfort to know. And that sounds like one interesting family you have there!

Have a great day, Paw. In view of your wonderful efforts on the diet, I'm not sending you some birthday cake, but may I have the next dance? :dance:

So what'd'ya tick, Ham? "Other" - which might include Planet Xenu? And "Other" for racial group, since Squirrel wasn't one of the choices?

To be sure, some here are negative, angry and bitter, about the whole of their TWI experience. A good many of us are not. But we do take negative, angry views of TWI's abuse of people. (And it certainly has been abuse!) But heck, God has negative, angry views about abuse of people! And just ask her how many times, Rev (?:P) Craig Martindale expressed negative, angry views about so many people. I heard more abuse, slander, foul language, anger from that man than I've ever heard before. Foaming at the mouth in his so-called "spiritual anger." If she's been in 20 years, she's seen plenty of that. Part of her difficulty may be that she has suppressed genuine emotions, concerns, and questions for so very long. And these have been replaced by fear of doing the wrong thing, asking the wrong question, and not doing exactly what has been "suggested" to her. Women were systematically put down and their confidence eroded - they are supposed to "submit" to just about anything. Waybrain takes a lot to overcome. To start with, right now what she's been taught is her her "security blanket" and for a while she might become even more Waybrained as she does her best to hang onto whatever she thinks she knows. How quickly she overcomes this may depend on why exactly she left. It seems to have been of her own accord, but something was the last straw. PM me if you like.

Hap, yes, the export of criminals as slaves, and of small children...to fill a newly-stolen land... not very polite (Brit understatement). Antipodes from Britain is usually considered Aus/NZ and islands thereabouts. Not usually South Africa. Kimberly, yes, there is "English" and there is "American" or "American English." And also idiomatic constructions in other English-speaking countries as well. The differences can be fun. When I was in rez, it was easy to bewilder or be bewildered by, to offend or be offended by, use of normal English expressions, whether Brit or antipodean, compared with US English. Of course, one could always say, "Where's yous from?"

Soul searcher, you might find these links interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethelbert_William_Bullinger http://books.google.com/books?id=2tAAOvvCgTwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=isbn:0825423724#v=onepage&q=&f=false It was reading notes in The Companion Bible that made the Bible begin to have meaning for me - in Leviticus, of all places!! Although many Way folk had copies of the CB, Bullinger's notes in the CB were often presented as "research" by TWI. Juanita Carey, referred to in the footnotes of the first link above, author of the second book, is (I believe) an ex-Wayfer but her book seems to be the biography available. Hey, SS, you don't need to worry about reviving "long-dead threads," either. They can be really interesting.