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FWIW, I just found this in my journal: a lunchtime sharing (?) by LCM in October 1992: Now, I wonder what one of my Corps sisters might have made of that - being as she was from a native American tribe although not one that was from that area. Nor was she from any of the tribes WW mentions. This came after insulting Europeans and their "spiritual darkness." That man surely had read, "How to win Friends and Influence People" - yeah, right.

TWO YEARS OLD and ALREADY SMOKING FORTY A DAY???? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: The kid can't run or walk ... and his dad thinks he looks healthy enough??????

Oh Chockfull, I don't doubt that TWI has "got" something on many of those at/near the top. But why did they stay ? Why stay long enough to get near the top? What'd TWI done to break their will? And I didn't mean people's tales in general. I meant Bolch@lk's in particular. Though to be fair, the version I got (and the rest of the in rez Corps at the time) was straight out of LCM's outraged mouth, and he was hardly known for his honesty and integrity in the accusations he made.

Bolch@lk was a very early beat-on-the-head "purchase." His tale of why he is still in the WC is definitely one of thost "what God did for me" tales. Does he tell anyone about ...? When they threw him out of the in rez WC? Then graciously accepted his grovelling apology and took him back in (the usual mind game)? Dunno what he was like before; but afterwards, he couldn't do enough to stay in their good graces and remain in the WC. It just made things a bl00dy sight more difficult for the rest of his Corps bros and sis - because we got the screws tightened on us even more, since we were clearly such a wilful and disobedient Corps (they didn't threaten to throw us all out though, not on that particular occasion). Hah, that'd be a good sharing. Bet you never heard it.

This and some other of James Trimm's topics are very interesting - but need to be in Doctrinal, surely, not in About The Way?

Old Skool, shame on you. It sounds very much to me like you were trying to be an exception, not exceptional. Did you think the whole program turned on you? That you were the most important person? You should have tried to be invisible - not be a squeaky wheel, constantly egotistically drawing attention to yourself. And other such rubbish. That "don't be an exception, be exceptional" was a real big stick to beat people into submitting into the mold. Glad you managed to retain some individuality. And Tonto, that's what they told us, in rez, too,a decade or so later too but before Old Skool. If your sponsors didn't send sponsorship money, it was because you, the person sponsored, were not taking care of them (yeah, right, like you were there right with them... or even really had time to write the obligatory letters!). Never mind what disasters might have befallen them.

Sorry to see you go, Jeff, but it's your life to spend as you think best, and there isn't a substitute for spending time with people. I'll miss your humorous posts, though, and your insight. Maybe you'll find you're addicted and you'll come back. Your son is worth every bit of the love and time you put into him. Hang in there, teaching him whatever it takes to grow into the fine young man you see him as, and equipped with all the wisdom he needs to avoid ravening wolves and false teachers. Best wishes for whatever you do in the future.

Dunno, soul searcher, but I wonder if there are people adding "votes" and that's what bumps it. There have to be more than 40 people who still hang around in the Cafe...don't there? Even though it has been quiet lately.

So that's why, when I was in rez, the staff quarters were basically off limits! Actually when in rez I don't think I gave any much thought as to what staff did. They did hang out with each other (well, who else is there?) and obviously could go off grounds (or could they?). In rez you hardly had time to think about what you yourself were doing except getting to the next meeting, meal, class, whatever - never mind what anyone else might be doing.

Sugar shack??? This means...? And it's - where...? Never heard of it. Though your post suggests naughty goings-on. And who are the people you mentioned? Celebs enjoying their 15 seconds of fame for ... what? Making sugar?

Bliss..... (gag) They wouldn't be thinking carnally there, would they?

Yeah, right. This one's still my favorite. Tui beer - ducks

Your ppt looked like a lot of work, herbie. But looks like a nice clear presentation. Well done!

Based on results, and if a twig coordinator was doing as poorly as The Way is nowadays, losing people so badly ... I'd say a serious face-melting was required. If your twig/branch lost people at such a rate, you'd be found a failure as a TC/BC. Probably get moved on, if you were a BC. Course, if you're the head honcho different rules apply, and you just snuggle deeper into your burrow.

Rummie, you're back! (Now behave yourself this time! Chill out with a beer.) How much was BP taking out every day anyway? And it's hugely more than that, that's escaping. It's a sort of undersea Chernobyl.

You took vacations, JavaJane? I sure hope you were out looking for new people to witness to. You were out looking for those lost sheep, weren't you, you know, the 99 safe in the fold and the 1 lost one that you were searching for, out in those wilds way away from normal contact. Good on ya.

And after all that teaching in PFAL about apeitheia and apisteia, too! Only that would be the "study of the doctrine," wouldn't it?!

Not sure that I heard that VPW "turned his face to the wall" but you can bet your bottom dollar that if he did/somebody said he did, it's in an effort to magnify VPW. There are two occurrences of this expression in KJV and they both refer to the same event: King Hezekiah had been "sick unto death" and his city was beseiged. Then the prophet Isaiah went to see him and Hezekiah changed his mind and was healed and lived long afterwards. Look at Hezekiah's prayer (bold, italics). Wouldn't be surprised if someone was suggesting this of VPW's life. But (heh heh) God is not fooled, knew VPW hadn't lived like this, and didn't answer the prayer (if indeed it were made). And VPW died. Here is the other record: 2 Kings 20 See the astonishing selfishness at the end of that chapter, where, after some bragging on Hezekiah's part, awful pronouncements are made against Hezekiah's successor, and all Hezekiah says is: "Good is the word of the lord." Didn't care about his successors one bit. Only that he himself got 15 more years of life. Better stop this now before the thread disappears into Doctrinal.

Be wary as a snake, Jeff (see my tag line). John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Acts 17:11 These [bereans] were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 1 Thess 5:21 Prove [test, check out] all things; hold fast that which is good. (Readiness of mind alone is not enough to keep you safe. You risk being blown around with every wind of doctrine - false doctrine - which, as you already know, means trouble ahead.)

Apathetic in everything except bringing in the dosh. No outreach. No helping others. No development of compassion, kindness. No looking at the lifestyle of Jesus, or study of the gospels. Lots of study of the epistles, where many many times Paul exhorts fellowships to "be followers of me" - though TWI was somewhat forgetting the next phrase: And so we were to follow our leaders at TWI, follow 'em right off the cliff. But they forgot this, and encouraged us to do likewise: That and the "busy work" to no particular purpose distracted followers from what (who) it's all about. You only have to see the falling numbers at HQ to see how spiritually apathetic they are. Yet for those who genuinely want to reach out, to help others, to be followers of Christ...the harvest is still plenteous.

Who said that? Was it a Wayfer, on Christian radio, at some church you go to? If a Wayfer - probably needs to remove the mote from his own eye.

Ooooh! That's very rude...!

From a current other thread about staff waiting to serve - people within a 250 mile radius are expected to travel to HQ every week. That's, what, at least ten hours driving? With fuel costs, and food costs en route? And do they pay a "mileage allowance" to help those people come? Do they pay for home assistance for those people so that their homes can be "up to scratch" because they don't have time to work on them, themselves? Like painting and decorating and all those other tasks people do at the weekend? Yeah, right. Hoard the money you have extracted from them, and suck out by other means the remainder of the money they have.

"Hoard the word" - yeah, exactly what they do. Only available to special people. Sign in - to a "church" service...? Many unwelcome...? Hoard it. Like a dragon's hoard. Rosalie, you lie like a ... dragon ...? What happened to, freely you have received - freely give...?

That sounds rather nice, Gen-2.