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Perhaps WD believes that there is a conspiracy among the victims to sully the good Dr.'s name. If that is the case then I would say that the burden of proof is in his court. In the face of so many first hand accounts, the protests of one person who wasn't there sound pretty hollow.

WB, Most of us here share the common history wherein critical thinking was discouraged. I remember my erudite mother's horrified expression the day that I brought home and armful of books and other reading materials from a Bible class that were all written by one man. "I thought I taught you better", she said. Unfortunately, her alarm didn't raise many red flags in my consciousness. Perhaps the best innoculation against simple mindedness, that virus turns inquisitive brain cells into circuit boards that only respond to the Program, is to make sure that you have a diversity of points of view to draw upon. Question everything and remember Plato's maxim, "The unexamined life is not worth living." I hope this helps. I do not pretend to have mastered subject.

Gassho! Honorable Curmudgeon. Robin

I got the idea for the poll whilst looking at a weed (not cannabis) and thinking would the whole Bible fall apart if scientists found a fossilized specimen of a thorny plant that could be accurately dated to be over 100,000 years old. WB, Cake and Yangi. Please feel free to expound on your "other" positions.

I hope it works this time. Yes!!!!!!!!

Hmm, don't know how that happened. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves.

I hope this poll will remain in the open forum as opposed to doctrinal so as to elicit participation and comments from those who may not accept the premise that the Bible is inherently inerrant as the only point of departure.

Since you have been taught the class and know how to believe, why do you think you need life insurance? It's just the Devil's way to get your money and rob you and the Ministry of a blessing, honey. You say you are concerned who will take care of your spouse and kids if you die? Why not teach them to believe and ABS too. Keep the money in the household. (But don't expect the Ministry to take care of your family if you can't believe to stay alive, we are about moving the Word and don't expect your fellow believers to take care of them either because they are believing like you aren't and sending in all their money above their legitimate needs to us.) Just keep sending in those money orders, we prefer them to checks since checks sometimes bounce, you know. Here are a few money saving tips so you can increase your ABS'ing so you can get blessed more. 1. Limit yourself to four sheets of toilet paper per trip to the throne. 2. Don't waste money on tampons. Use and re-use a sponge instead and believe God you won't get toxic shock from it. 3. Don't go on a vacation. Look at but don't buy a travel magazine and look at the pictures. That way you can redeem the time and "go" more places. 4. Get rid of your pets. They are only body and soul, you know. 5. Hitchhike more and drive less. This will save you money and give you an opportunity to witness. Remember it is available to believe you and your kids won't be mugged or raped when you hitchhike...but blame your believing and not us if you do. Hey, and while you are at it. Get rid of the jack and tire tool in your car. It is available for you to believe that your balding tires will never blow out on you ant that you will never encounter a road hazard. And as for saving for your old age by putting money in a 401k, forget it. Why not go to your personnel office at work and ask them if they will match your ABS instead of contributing to that stupid plan that will just give the ol' Bird more money to play with? God knows we need the money more than you. Lawyer fees and court costs are expensive, you know.

Here are a few nagging questions that are perplexing to me. If God knew Satan would rebel and wreak so much havoc on His Creation, why did He create him? If God knew that Adam and Eve would commit the original sin by eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, why did He place it in the Garden of Eden? At the time of the Flood (ca. 6,000 years ago), the Bible says that all the dry land was one land mass which broke apart afterwards. We know that the continents move because of tectonic plates shifting and folding under each other at the rate of just a few centimeters per year. Even at that meager rate, this tectonic activity produces devastating earthquakes and tsunamis that claim tens of thousands of lives. If one does the math the continents should only be a few hundred meters apart given the rate of tectonic plate movement. To be where we find them today, they must have travelled at some time at a much higher rate. How did this happen without destroying life on earth?

On first blush, you are assuming that what vp taught in pfal was scriptural. That debate is on going and far from settled. With respect to the teacher's ungodly behavior calling into question what he taught, the following well known passages come quickly to mind: By their fruits you shall know them. Jesus didn't spend a lot of time criticizing people for what they believed but he sharply rebuked ungodly religious leaders for what they DID. Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees Jesus criticized the Pharisees not so much their understanding of scripture but by their application of it and it made their converts a two-fold more a child of hell than they were themselves. Wolves in sheeps clothing If a wolf says "baa, baa", he is still a wolf. By the way, many sheep in twi ignored warning and paid the price for it.

Praying you feel better soon, Seth.

Quite an endeavor Cavedude. At my age there is only one thing I am focused on raising.

Dominick LaCapra---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Allon Brann <ayb2103@columbia.edu> Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:22 AM Subject: CUJH Article Nomination To: rmj28@cornell.edu Dear Ryan, Congratulations! Professor LaCapra has nominated your paper from his course "Topics in European Intellectual and Cultural History: The Secular and the Sacred" for publication in the Columbia Undergraduate Journal of History. This places you among a select group of undergraduates whose outstanding historical work is gathered by our journal on the basis of nominations received by professors from around the country. All nominated articles will be published on the Journal's website: cujh.columbia.edu in September, and will be reviewed and considered for publication in our print edition for the Fall of 2008. If you accept the nomination in the Journal, or selected for presentation in the Herbert Aptheker Undergraduate History Conference, you must follow these guide lines. Nominated papers that do not follow these guidelines will not be considered for publication in the Journal. 1. Length - much of the nominated scholarship is senior theses. These however, are often too long for an article format. We are somewhat flexible, but 35 pages is the upper limit and certainly nothing longer the 40 pages. If the nominated work is longer, you must edit it to be within these guidelines. If you send us something 70 pages long, we will not read it. If you send us something under 50, we may be willing to work with you on cutting it down to what we believe are the most essential components. 2. Style Guide - Your nominated paper must follow Turabian or Chicago Style and include a complete bibliography. 3. File - Please submit your nominated paper as a Microsoft word document. DO NOT USE DOCX (the new Microsoft format) as all of our editors will not be able to use the file format. Instructions: Attach the file, and send the email to cujh@columbia.edu Please include your name and the title of your paper in the body of the email. We prefer that you send it soon, but if you need to make revisions, you have until the end of August. After September 1st, no papers will be considered. Once again, congratulations. If you have any questions about the submission process or the journal in general, please don't hesitate to ask me. The editors and I look forward to reading your work. Best, Allon Brann Editor Columbia Undergraduate Journal of History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominick%20LaCapra

Thank all of you dear ladies. Thanks to Tom and Chef too. I got to taste some Italian wines with the winemaker himself today. Big Yum! Ryan called last night and my brother Steve (Yes, Shell the fell in the septic tank brother) called tonight. A customer who recently came back from Cuba gave me a cuban cigar from the contraband he smuggled in. Hey, I just realized I now qualify for the Senior discount at several fast food joints! Life is good indeed. Peace, Robin

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GFY!!!

According to Dr. Mary Schweitzer of North Carolina State University, her team treated the fossilized T Rex thighbone to remove the mineral content from the marrow. The minerals essentially had mummified the soft tissue.

New Earth Proponents generally believe: The Universe is 6,000 to 10,000 years old. The earliest life forms appeared 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. There were no hominid ancestors of man. Mankind is 6,000 to 10,000 years old. For these to be true the following must also be true: The speed of light must have slowed down. The half life of U-235 must not more than 10,000 years. Dinosaurs lived concurrently with modern humans and died out only within the last 10,000 years.

Not so. Old geological earth is based on empirical data. Namely, the "clock in the rock." Radioisotope dating is based upon the constant rate of decay of U-235 to becoming lead. Since we know that the half life of U-235 is approximately 700 million years, we can compare percentages of U-235 to lead found in rock formations in order to determine the age of the rock. If for instance an imprint of a fossil is found in sedimentary or perserved in volcanic strata, radioisotope dating is valuable in determining its age.

Where is the geologic evidence that the continents were moving apart at hyperspeeds compared to what they are moving today? This is an interesting chart that outlines the underlying beliefs / assertions of New Earth Creationism, Old Earth Creationism, Theistic Evolution and Natural Evolution against known scientific data. http://www.originscience.com/origin-views-...rison-chart.htm

But how did marsupials (or any mammal you may choose) get to Australia after the flood?

Ryan received A's in all his classes during his first year at Cornell. He also was invited to join two academic honors fraternities.

Gossho (sp?) George

Dot, Hold on January 20, 2009 is just around the corner.