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Naw Groucho - that was P.T. Barnum and the Ringling Broths... oh yeah - I forgot - same thing

Damn - I haven't even thought of that stupid phrase for 20 years - horn of plenty... Wasn't that what Martindales wife called Rivenbark? What the hell was Martindale's wifes name again?

I thought it was called Gearing up to Walk in Geer's power

HAHAHAHAHA - too true - but I'm not bragging about any of that Groucho - don't know whether to be proud or embarrassed by that shyite

Wasn't that the title of a Wishbone Ash album (CD - whatever - Groucho and I are older than Jesus)

Perfect Groucho - all Lery asked for was turn on, tune in and drop out - &$*# - WAIT didn't we do that with TWI - at least the drop out part LOL

Groucho - now Fartingdale is a king - HAHAHAHAHA - well then I guess everything concave belongs to the king

Damned straight Shellon

Yeah but one ended over the weekend the other lasted too many years. I'll take the acid for twi anytime

What the hell was his name Groucho??? Kotch or something like that - busted his mother for speeding. WHy don't you sign his foot up for PFAL

That abusive @(%* would dry hump a skunk if he thought it would boost his ego and income

Damn Groucho you beat me to it! Groucho - maybe we can sell the place to Stoshu, Joe and Mick

Come on Groucho where the hell is Timothy Leary :) Now that was worth way more than PFAL and cost less.

I always wondered about his fine scene in AOS where he was dry humping the "spirits" of temptation or seduction or whatever they were supposed to be while his wife was really doing Rivenbark off stage.

Ya Belle - I bet you are right. Can't wait to see what Groucho posts when he sees this

Good job Krysilis explaining density differences and global circulation. Take a look at some of Bob Gray's work on supercanes and hypercanes. He was the red headed step-child for years until his stats got better than the NHC's. What's your line of work if you don't mind me asking? Eveer tossed a CTD or Seci disk over the side?

Garth that is why the Venus Express was built - which BTW approaches orbit burn pretty soon - like sometime this week I think. However there are also some rather obvious differences. Orbit radius, atmospheric chemistry, etc. What I am telling you is that we simply do not understand the physics well enough yet to make hard decisions about all of the processes. That fact is, and honest scientist admits when they don not have all of the answers while still being forward to enough to post trends. I posted trends in the field of science I work in. No honest scientist is leaving any stone unturned - including Venus. However if we have all of the correct answers on global warming please explain to me we spent a boatload of money to spend a spaceprobe to get more info?!

Nicely done Goey! Let me add a little more since I am pretty involved that science side of that community. First of all Goey is spot on about the phytoplanton. You can use ocean color from visible space-borne radiometers to determine relative amount, and hence, relative health of the phytoplankton from their chlorphyll signature they leave in the water. Follow the links to the right of Goeys link to Phytoplankton labelled SeaWiFS and Terra. That's how you get the data. Why is phytoplanton important? Besides Oxygen/CO2 regeneration? Too little OR too much kills the food chain. Too little is obvious - nothing for the rest of the chain to eat. Too much (let's from phosphate pollution) causes an overpopulation. When they die, like all carbon based life, they oxydize in the water. Simply put they rot and as they do the consume oxygen. Guess what else needs oxygen...fish. It is a condition known as hypoxia. Now Goey I'm gonna add a little on global warming. Besides it is as controversial as some of the posts on GSC :) It is true that there is distinct evidence of global warming and it is also true that it is unclear how much of the cycle is natural and how much humans have contrbuted too. Humans love to hate each other. However a couple of points to remember. There plenty of evidence for "ice ages" where polar ice sheets ran all the way down into the continental U.S. After a few thousand years the globe warmed... and you have a nice sweet temporate zone in the northern hemispher that is hospitable to us warm-blooded crunchy things. You pick :) Second issue which is still out is the cloud physics. Global warming will, theoretically produce larger quantites of greenhouse gases. They are called that, possibly erroneuosly, because originally it was, and still is in many circles, thought that those gases will result in increased, perhaps global cloud cover. The clouds hold the heat, the self feeding cycle gets worse. But WAIT THERE'S - a pack of Ginzu knives - oops wrong channel - let's go back the the clouds again. Every cloud physicist has this great dilemma. Where do we GET our heat in the first place? Well some is internal but almost every bit of it is from solar energy. Clouds are white - well mostly - but we wont go there. If they are white and they are global then they REFLECT SUNLIGHT...which means less energey getting under the cloud layers and less terrestrial heating. And hears the kicker - the best cloud physicist in the world can't tell you which way it would really go. All of the models and simulations suffer in that the slightests tweaks will make a model pick the other choice. My last thought. I am not a tree hugger. But it does make sense not to crap in your dishwasher... so we might be only a tiny fraction of the warming issue but it's still a good idea to recycle, find alternatives to some the chemicals that were in common use that are known to alter atmospheric chemistry... Ya know - just don't crap in your dishwasher.

Johnny that was almost exactly like it was when I showed it. There was open embarrasment - we never bothered with the closing credits and everyone just kind of stodd milling around till they could get out of the room.

Sounds like you covered a lot of ground. I have two kids - a 17 year old daughter and a 13 year old son - and like you - one wife ago. Best wishes to your kids.

One other thought for Patriot and Paw... seems that the following line from the Declaration of Independance fits GreaseSpotCafe to the tee's. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Spot on Groucho - and your memory ain't bad for someone approaching geezer status. One of the shames is that a lot of the people in that production - at least 5 that I can think of... had real credentials in the production community - mostly broadway but others as well... while LCM pranced around like ... well like... $*@! well you know what I mean - he was like watching Dr. Smith in the original B&W Lost in Space. One of those five with real credentials ended up in BTR with me - and when she got engaged to a local military guy, Platig called me up and called her up - reaming her - but being nice to me - because after all I was fellow black robe...sheeesh.... telling me he was not worthy of her etc etc etc. I explained to him that - well never mind the dirt - those two have been married now for almost twenty years with two fine kids... Late night rambling

HA HA Patriot - Leave in the small frag you left out of your sig... - actually I cut out too much below BUT - the phrase "invariably the same Object" wll strike close to home for many who knew VPW, LCM, Geer and the rest of the usual names Might also change is is to it is... but still love your sig pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,

CK - I've try tied to be a little laid back in the spririt of Robert Hunter but your quote that the word is lost on this site is a little over the deep edge. TempleLady is closer than you even though I don't completely agree with her. A) She is spot on about this site not being here to preserve the word. It is here for the people that got sucked into New Knoxville's BS and need a way out of a cult. B) I am not sure what the phrase "The Word" means. Is it VPW's? LCM's? Is it God's? Damn sure know that the teachings I got in the 8th Corps didn't help me as much as common sense and human compassion did. The doctrine of TWI was NOT the Word... or at least what any sane person thinks "The Word" is...it raped and pillaged women and left men without their wives and families. It tore families apart and left them penniless in the name of "abundant sharing." CK - tell the dolts at HQ to send all of the people whose lives they ripped apart 15 percent of their part time living and believe for the rest...Tell Rosalie that 15 percent of her income should go to the broken souls who post their hearts out on this site. Oh yeah - Tell Platig that when he called that poor WOW girl in my house and told her not to marry the miltary guy that he was an &$*#(*. They're still happily married and have adorbable kids and lives... twenty years later. But probably they will be a "grease spot by midnight" because they go to a church now... just not the one in Ohio.... Wish I had Groucho's avatar right about now

Lifted you sure are different on line than I remembered you in person - 'course that was almost 30 years ago as I recall