GrouchoMarxJr

Interesting posts... When JAL first left twi (was fired), he was quick to point out the errors of twi's doctrine and Wierwille's hedonistic lifestyle...yet now he speaks of his "father in the word" being proud of him... Hmmm, what am I missing here?

...That doesn't speak too highly of religion.

8,000 post!... I feel like I know you quite well because of those posts...and you're definetly one of the good guys.

Where is tcat these days?...I kinda know her sister.

What do you get when you cross a Jehova witness with an agnostic? ...Someone who knocks on your door and when you answer, they stand there and shrug.

How twi changed my life?...besides missed opprotunities? I suppose my twi experience made me more cynical and less likely to fall for "bible con jobs"...After leaving twi, I became more secure in my own belief system and less dependant on the reinforcement of other people or groups...I walked away with a pretty good bull s **t meter.

For some reason your link didn't work for me... but, after living in Texas for 17 years and associating with a lot of good Mexican friends I know that genuine Mexican food involves garlic, jalepena peppers and tomatoes...and a lots of it. I love good Mexican food...it's incredible

Stoner cookies... Lay out a whole package of pecan sandies on a big plate...spread peanut butter on each cookie...sprinkle rasins on cookies and dust with cinnamin... it ain't fancy but you'll be drooling on your chin

Venison roast... There's plenty of deer where I live and every year I get plenty of venison... Get a prime roast cut of about 3 pounds or so... stab it repeatedly with a sharp knife...each time you stab it, shove a small piece of garlic into the meat until you've got about 2 cloves into that sucker... cover it with black pepper and then place about 6 slices of bacon over the top of it...put it in a slow cooker on high for about 8 hours or so...cut up potatoes, carrots, onions and whatever else you want to cut up...throw it in and cook it for another 2 hours or so...if you feel froggie, you can pour a cup of red wine over it. drink Sam Adams while eating it.

I want one of those 1,000,000 volt stun guns...Could you see the look on some ordained clergy's face when you held it up to his kidneys and gave it a blast?... Joshua had a sword...shouldn't we have so much more?...afterall, that was old testatment.

They probably selected that name because they never heard of twi...I mean, who has? They are an insignificant cult that maintains their tax exempt status and continues to provide a comfortable lifestyle for the cult leaders that run it... At best, they are a footnote in a cult directory.

For these guys at the "top"...(such as lcm), this was like an Indiana Jones movie combined with a little Stephen King. They lived in a make believe world where they were central figures in an epoch scenario...the spiritual fate of the world rested in their hands... They were the nut cases that screamed and intimidated...and yes, guns eventually found their way into the stronghold of Zion...the place where the highly initiated ones ( nut cases ) stood in the gap...what insanity it was.

Church service?... Not hardly...These egomaniacs were so absorbed by their delusional concept of their own self importance that they packed guns in order to face the "reality of the adversary's attacks"... IMHO, they were just a few steps away from a Jim Jones or David Koresh type of incident. I went through the Mal pack training in the 10th corps...these guys were REALLY whacked out. I recall during that training that lcm told us that he was considering breaking broom sticks in half and giving us each a piece...so that we could kill the guy who was trying to steal our loaf of bread...are you kidding me?

Firearms?...You bet! How about the famous "clergy meeting" where Geer pulled out his handgun and laid it on the lecturn next to his bible...or how about B*** L*** when he leveled his gun on several clergy who decided to leave the meeting early... guns?...this goes back to the Wierwille and Del Duncan days...there was a paramilitary atmosphere among certain of the "highly initiated ones" back in the late 70's and early 80's...

My dad was a famous comedian... does that count?

Hi ya Mudflaps...Welcome to the Spot...come join us in our little reindeer games. There's no name tags, classes or titles here (except for Sudo...we call him "Dr." ) As you probably know by now, most of us here think that twi gives off a really bad smell...worse than the restroom in a bean factory in Mexico in the middle of summer. Glad to hear that you left on your own terms. There's a certain satisfaction that comes with that. :)

Should I send him a card?...perhaps a song or a cake?... Naw...I think I'll send him nothing...nothing at all. Sorry...but considering the behavioral problems that he refused to give up, I would have to say that he wasted his time in corps training and simply didn't get anything out of it...maybe he should just find a twig somewhere...

What if we call it a "convincing win"? The biggest win for a democrat in 44 years...not to mention flipping 7 states from red to blue... I would say that the people have spoken.

From what I've been hearing if Obama wins either Fla or Ohio...it's over.

Your focus is who I now hold "GOD's Word" to.....but yet, your not concerned with "product" I'm afraid you make some assumptions that I do not make...Twi's verson of "God's word" WAS their product. ...and a twisted one at that.

...the only thing that stopped a "Jonestown incident" from happening in twi was that the leaders were enjoying their hedonistic lifestyles too much to end it with mass suicides...drambuie and young girls seemed more appetizing to Vic than squad cars and tear gas...

Ditto on that...anyone who actually enjoys that form of mental torture almost deserves to be in twi...

Point taken...I suppose it's not so much that they lack proper theological training" as much as it's the idea that they give credence to a cult leader's ordination process...

Mine too!...but only on this website...what's up? Is anybody else's screen doing this?

As far as I know, Lynn never confronted Wierwille concerning these matters and only protested AFTER he was fired... was he a partaker of these "sexual shenanigans" during his twi days?...ask him.