GrouchoMarxJr

What Wierwille taught these guys was the "spiritual Amway formula"... ...the grassroots, home fellowship, send your money into the centralized location formula. Lynn learned his lessons well...as did Finnigan, and a host of others. The fact is...most of us here could probably pull off the same stunt...the only thing stopping most of us is self respect and a sense of decency.

Thank you Roy...thank you for your honest heart and open hand that reaches out to others... Your heart is pure and your intentions are godly...I think that the God that lives in you is a fine God.

...I think that JAL, in many ways, is the epitomization of what Vic did to people with his money scam cult. He should be put on a poster with the caption..."THIS COULD BE YOU" When JAL first left twi he proclaimed something about leaving Egypt with the gold...what he should have said was that he was leaving the organization that screwed up his brain but he was keeping the screwed up brain...

...and I thought you were calling Loy to see if he would don his robes once again... ...will there at least be a salt covenant?

Sure...I remember listening to this song out on the "trip strip" with Mick...both of us taking in the orange sunshine... Needless to say, the sentiments in this song strike a chord in my soul...great song!

I guess you just had to see it in the original...

That's right Bolshevic...the false prophet of Arsecrack, Ohio...whose "ministry" destroyed families by the score...I would say that he left plenty of holes in the fence himself...

Ditto on that...In my 13 years, which included far too many personal encounters with the prince of darkness, I never heard him utter that one... ...although it DOES sound like something he'd use...

...before someone files a complaint against my post...they are both dear friends of mine and I've known about this for some time now...hee hee

Good Christ in heaven!...Rumrunner and doojie...I might barf. I know them both and Rumrunner is as ugly as the bastard child of Charles Manson whose face has been set on fire...oh well...his momma always said that if you tied a pork chop around his neck, some Italian girl would snatch him up...a prohesy fulfilled.

Of course they would romanticize about that era...that was when they made all their money...that they are STILL living off of.

He looks like he could be Wierwille's brother...Kinda creepy if you ask me.

"...with what others are doing while enjoying life..." Kind of a broad and general statement to describe a specific act...don't you think? I don't give a rat's a$$ what these people do to enjoy life...unless it happens to be an attempt to hoist the "waycorps flag" again..John's website is not called the "FORMER way corps" site...it's called the "Way corps" site...I think that an attempt to regroup the waycorps is a legitimate subject for the GreaseSpot cafe...

\ Well, you DID ask that we keep our comments positive...If I disagree with you, is that considered a negative comment?...if so, I refer you to George's question above... and isn't "perhaps you're the one with the kool-aid" comment rather NEGATIVE itself?...do we have double standards here?...hmmmm, let me think about this for awhile...

Radar!...long time no see! Good to see you in spite of your misguided slam against my most poignant thread... ...don't tell me you're going on the cruise?

...I'm still wondering how John will coordinate his limb meeting...oops, I meant cruise... A LOT of these folks are still drinking the koolaid...splinter groups and what have you...this thing has the potential to be the springboard that brings the Frankenstein monster back to life... Who knows...a new splinter group in the making?

Dang! That should have been the title of this thread!

Here's the thing...these lowlifes are living off of the abs from the 70's and 80's... The assets of twi that they accumulated during those years are invested and returning enough for these scoundrals to retire in comfort...their present "ministry" doesn't have to grow or expand much because they are content to live off of yesteryears fat days. All they have to do is meet the IRS requirments to maintain their tax exempt organization... Out of date?...nope...these flim flam artists are still reguritating the same old crap...at least Wierwille put on a dog and pony show...all these fakers do is keep the trains running on time.

Should we all sing the theme song for Gilligan's island?...or maybe the Love Boat? ...This whole thing gives me the "Willies"...maybe the Coen brothers could do a dark documentary on it...

From what I can see, the waycorps folks don't like our opinions much... ...and that's too bad because I really like to express myself. If Rich#$%@ hadn't cut and run from the GreaseSpot, he could respond to me in a public forum that allows people to express dissenting opinions...but it looks like he chooses not to... ...probably too busy planning the cruise.

Seems that John and his gang are planning a reunion cruise...over 60 people signed up already! I'm wondering if they will break into twigs and have a main teaching at night... I'll have to ask Lingo...I heard he's going.

Funny stuff...all of it true. Sometimes I think of those years (13 for me), as a trip to the "hall of mirrors" at the carnival...the minute I left, I felt liberated and never looked back. I knew these people were scum and that I had been conned. ..."and Lo, I shall bend you over and have my way with you, you shall be a cloud with no water for I shall drink your water"... Hmmm...Rumrunners post didn't show up here ...I guess it was because I was trying to quote a quote?...anyway...go back and read post #21...

...People walking around thinking that God is speaking to them on a regular basis...hmmm, let me think about that for a minute... ...and it's not a "supernatural event" where you actually hear God speaking to you...it's a formula you learn in a class...first thought...right...as soon as you sit through this huckster's class, God turns on the live feed...mental illness? sure...as good a term as any to describe it. ...and it was always amusing to see the correlation between the nametag and the amount of "revelation" one received. Ego trips galore..."father told me..." The neophytes would marvel. It was a lifestyle...for some, they knew it was bull sh *t but for others...they were carried away by the flying monkeys from the wizard of Oz...they went too far and there were no bread crumb trails to find their way home. It's funny...most people are herd animals...they want to belong to a group. My advice is to find a small group of friends...people you trust ( family also qualifies ), and when you see these God peddlers, flip them the bird...and then put on some Grateful Dead... ...as far as "Gods voice" goes...I'll let you know if I hear it.

Burger King saved my life...if I hadn't stopped for that Whopper and fries I would have surely been hit by that train... I remember Vic laying that on people all the time...how his "ministry" saved people from certain death...was that before or after he fondeled his 12 year old daughter's breasts? What's wrong with people? The guy was a drunken pervert. How about the people who committed suicide because of twi?...shall we subtract that number from those who were saved?

It's my understanding that Rosie wears the eye around her neck on a chain...sorta like Dr Strange had his magic amulet (also with an eye in it)... There were rumors at the time that when Rosie went to Vic's funeral she had an ice cream scooper in her purse. There was some speculation that when nobody was lookin', she scooped that sucker right out of Vic's head...