GrouchoMarxJr

Happy birthday George...

...And to think this "farm" used to belong to the Wierwille family...Even the Wierwille kids cannot step foot on the property that had been in their family for generations...sad Another example of grifter Vic's poor decision making.

Congrats Raf!... Can you get me a job?

If you get near Columbus, Ohio...you have a place to stay... Song...check your private messages...

Welcome...you are amoung friends here... I'm not sure a confrontation would be a good thing for you...sounds like their minds are made up...and if that's the case...you'll not convince them of anything that is contrary to what they believe...there will only be arguing and hard feelings...let them live in their fantasy world...and love em anyway. ;)-->

One reason why I asked was because if they ARE divorced, doesn't that disqualify Donna from having any leadership positions? I know that scores of people were summarily dismissed from their positions and their corps status when they got divorced... Donna has the uncanny ability to fall into a portajohn, headfirst, and come out smelling like spring flowers...doesn't SHE have any culpability in any of this?

...Just goes to show you that Martindale wasn't even unique in his own chosen perversions and corruption... Just another punk with a title...

Not to take this off on a tangent, but I am looking for opinions... My next door neighbors...married couple in their 30's...3 kids, a 9 year old boy and 4 year old twins (boy & girl)... They seem perfectly "normal" except for one thing...the father's temper and big mouth. He explodes all over these kids...nothing physical, but the worst verbal abuse I have ever heard in my life...screaming obscenities, calling them a-holes, etc...it's terrible. The wife gets upset when he does it but does not stand up to him...I realize that she is an "enabler" because she let's him get away with it... I have spoken to both of them about it...One day, I walked outside when he was doing it and told him to "chill out"...told him that he should not be speaking to children like that, etc...he admits that he is wrong but says he cannot help himself (yeah, right)...he has started anger management classes, only to get angry and quit! The child protection agency has been to his house several times and "talked" to him about it...If they come one more time, they will probably take the kids away... OK...so here's my question...should I call the child protection agency on him? On one hand, if I sit here and knowingly let this go on, I am also an "enabler" of sorts...but if I call it in...the kids will be taken away from their mother as well and even be split up from each other, and put into seperate foster homes... Most of the time, they seem like a happy family...but I know this is screwing these kids up...It's a tough situation and I'm not sure what I should do, if anything...Opinions? Advice?

Yes...all of the above. ...and we ARE more isolated from each other than a few generations ago...before there were cars...and television...and a few other things. 100 years ago, folks didn't travel very far from home...and people walked...and they visited their neighbors...and they had a greater sense of who was who. I think it's much easier for these sickos to blend in today, because so many folks interact on a very superficial level...almost everyone knows how to smile and throw out a few one liners..."He seemed normal"...and then barricade yourself in the house, watching TV all night...We simply don't get to know people very well anymore. ...And when it comes to these creeps, we need safeguards. Maybe a tatoo on their foreheads?

Does anyone know for sure?

Martindale's fanatical mindset leads me to believe that he is still involved with twi. I mean, the guy thought he was the mogfodat! I can't see him abandoning his twi kingdom based on an out of court settlement... I recall, when I was in residence in the late 70's...lcm was always talking about his contingency plans to go "underground" if the need ever arose. He ate that kind of stuff up...remember MAL packs? ...and to me, that explains why Rozilla is the president now...a figurehead, carrying out lcm's secret orders??? I know this subject has come up numerous times in the past...and many have presented some sound logic why this is not so...but nevertheless, I still have this feeling....I mean, his wife is still there..."best friends" with Rozilla...

I've always been suspect of lcm's so-called "lowprofile"... I think he still has his finger in the pie...so to speak.

Great attitude ozbirdau...being "right", oftentimes isolates us from folks with really great hearts...it's not about being right...it's about caring for people and trying to help those in need...

I still got my wow pin...how much do you think I could get for it? -->

unbreakable4god...WELCOME to the happy land of posting at the grease spot...hope to see more of you.

For the record... To my friend George Aar...stand tall my friend, you are a man of honor...I am sorry for your problem...Gawd, I really am.

I think this is a subject that both left wing and right wing agree on...my Gawd...kids? Leave em alone or go to jail forever...or be put to death...whatever... I am thrilled that the liitle girl was rescued...I fear for the little boy... Have you guys read John Walsh's book? He's a hero in my estimation...How sad I feel when I hear about a child abduction...how monsterous of a thing to do...there's no excuse. Rehabilitate them? Why bother?...Send em straight to hell.

One thing to consider, is that the current waycorps is made up of people who are too stupid to realize they are in a cult. The information concerning twi is out there...and plentiful. I imagine that the "talent pool" that twi has to choose from for their leadership positions is so shallow that if you walked through the middle of it, you wouldn't get the bottom of your shoes wet. ...At least the earlier corps had an excuse...and before lcm ran them off in the late 80,s, there were some fairly bright and talented people there. To answer the question as to whether they were born *******s or did the corps make them that way... Both...many were natural born *******s and they gravitated to the corps like a junebug to a light bulb...others were decent folks and the waycorps "training" shaped their minds into ******* mode...there were a few, not many, who resisted the ******* orientation process...these folks were usually marginilized, run off...or simply quit.

All I can say, is that if there were no New York Yankees...there would be no baseball.

Really..that's what happened...I had just spent a weekend with two guys in another city, that were twi clergymen and had just walked out of the famous "Chris Geer clergy meeting"...they spent a lot of time talking about how the the tithe was an old testament deal and so on and so forth...when I confronted the twi leadership with this stuff...the best they could say was "Are you saying that Dr. Wierwille was wrong?"...no scripture, no discussion...that was it...when I said "yeah, he was wrong"...I was labeled as being debbil possessed! LMAO.

Oh Gawd...this thread is cracking me up...good one Linda. In all seriousness though, a finger in the ear is worth two in the bush.

Yeah...Ain't it the truth. Looking back, it's so easy to see how so many were puffed up with knowledge...including myself... ...what does it say "Ye shall know them by their fruit"?...or we say back home...the proofs in the puddin'.

Mr. President...Is it true that when you were born, you were so ugly that the doctor slapped your mother?

Hello there Groovy Gal...welcome to our hangout...Has Raf given you you're complimentary cup of coffee yet?...Glad to have you aboard. When the twi clergyman attempted to stick his finger in her ear....she said "HEY, THAT's NOT MY EAR!"...To which the twi clergyman replied..."Well, that's not my finger"...

What's does twi mean by "growth"? At one time they had nearly 100,000 pfal grads...but after they got a "whiff" of what was really cooking...they slipped out the back door... ...So...does "growth" mean taking their money for some lame foot class?...and then not giving a rat's foot about them after that?