T-Bone

Ha ! You said "Wierdhole" Is that similar to a black hole? Black hole: a region of space having such an intense gravitational field that nothing can escape or when used informally refers to a place where people or things, especially money, disappear without a trace. Fortunately when followers of TWI & splinter groups wise up to cult tactics they get all Interstellar and bust outta that "wierdhole" or its surrounding satellites.

What you're saying may be similar to what some folks experience - who are so shocked they go into denial when they're confronted with vpw's plagiarism, hypocrisy, licentious lifestyle, falsehoods of experiences and credentials. Denial is a common reaction , of course; but rather than thinking of it as a hopeless mental trap - freedom is possible; sometimes it takes a stiff upper lip to face reality - maybe in bite size pieces though - and to consider that uncomfortable feeling of letting go of certain delusions as growing pains in developing critical thinking. The mind does have an amazing ability to deceive itself and perhaps that's especially true when one is so enthralled with an idea that they are unwilling to give it up.

Boy, I’ll say ! and that reminds me - I also chased after a one trick pony for 12 years, whose only area of expertise was being a charlatan.

Thanks for that Byrds tune, Waysider - it's funny how me being an old city boy took such a likin' to it - my best friend and drummer in my first band turned me on to that...love it

ya know...you got me thinking - i wonder if some test patterns were designed by a grad who was very impressed with the session on the four crucified

Thanks for that link, WordWolf – pretty neat site, I had to bookmark it. By the way, I noticed they have epub versions of eBooks on that site - I bought ePubSoft awhile back – I think I paid $40 and it allows me to remove the DRM (digital rights management from digital media) – - hey, before anyone gets all up in arms about that I just wanted to say that the purpose of DRM is to prevent the unauthorized redistribution of digital media; I don’t resell or give away any eBook that I convert to epub; what I use it for is to convert to a PDF format some small technical references like Ugly's Electrical References that I’ve purchased in eBook format; I email them as a PDF to myself – for the times where I don’t have my smart phone/Kindle app but I do have a computer to get to my email. There’s more than one way to MacGyver a situation, don’t you know.

X marks the (Grease) spot (couldn't find a check mark)....and you can quote me on this - i checked "No" - i would never in a million millenniums recommend vpw's books

"i wish you could read it in the original...it's just so so"

good point, Raf

perhaps a little fine-tuning = using the mindset promoted in PFAL to analyze PFAL would be flawed indeed. = = = = comedy break: why did the pigeon cross the chess board? to crap on the other side.

maybe you are but I'm not lost in the controversy...vpw said "the word" takes the place of the absent Christ...of course, a lot of folks here realize vpw's "the word" was actually his twisted interpretation of scripture. obviously, there's some folks still lost in vpw's "the word".

Maybe in wierwille’s mind something went away (besides wierwille's conscience and reason) but scripture speaks of Christ’s continued presence: For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them. Matthew 18:20 ESV Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age. Matthew 28:20 ESV For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39 ESV I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians 2:20 ESV So that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, Ephesians 3:17 ESV To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Colossians 1:27 ESV

Yeah Rocky, that’s a good thing to know (that you don’t need a Kindle to read a Kindle book). Although I do have a Kindle (I love my old Kindle Keyboard paper-white display) I too use the app on my computer, iPad and iPhone – especially if there are diagrams, pictures and maps with the text. I’ve already got B Russell’s book and skimmed through it this morning – very insightful, the part along the lines of institutions disseminating knowledge but not teaching how to intelligently sift through that knowledge – and that education should have an aim of expanding the mind and not narrowing it. Very applicable to all things TWI and that goes for the way corps community too - Russell’s mention of the state being over education can apply to any organization (i.e. cult) that is intent on stacking the deck information-wise and through the subtlety of propaganda “reinforces” a certain opinion.

Jesus may want to look into the TSA pre-check program - Tonto and I got our membership this year - saves time and stress TSA Pre-check

Some folks are about as forthright as a slow boat to China

The lost “art” of alchemy with vpw’s nonsense may work in one’s imagination – but it doesn’t work in the real world Kool-Aid makes the cultist grow fonder vpw’s writings are to plagiarism what evidence is to the crime

Somebody's bin smokin' dat Dilithium Crystal Meth

saaaaay that looks familiar....is that the 44th episode The Tribulation with Treble? ...no wait don't tell me - oh yeah The Trouble with Trebble-a-shuns....no ....mmmmmm...can I call a friend? ...how about I'm All About Outer Space No Tribbles ? ok that's my final answer

Please bear in mind there’s some who believe we’re in the tribulation period right now….well…just on this thread anyway...i guess it's debatable if this thread is The Great Tribulation or just Tribulation period....it makes a helluva entertaining discussion.

looks interesting Rocky - I'll have to check out the 99 cent Kindle version - thanks !

maybe vpw's works should be added to this cannon

Skyrider, I love joking around like this but it makes me think of just how fearful and submissive I was when I was in TWI – that I would never have thought of – let alone follow through on any idea to circumvent the way’s rules and regs.

HQ: how many corps are in attendance ? Branch Coordinator: ten HQ: and only corps are present? Branch Coordinator: yes (then thinks to himself "though not all are standing corps") HQ: and you're NOT recording - is that correct? Branch Coordinator: that is correct (then thinks to himself " Craig hasn't started blabbing yet - so we'll wait to record his bat$hit crazy stuff and technically I'm not in charge of recording tonight, George is.")

Warming up for the big chess game, the lone pigeon kept chanting "be the pawn...be the pawn...be the pawn."

thus spake Zarathustra Johnny Jump-Up