DogLover

Actually, I have notes from when Walter Cummins taught the three different types of evil way back in the late 1970s ... it came from a SNS tape called "Your Critical Christian Decision." In it, he outlined the types of evil and concluded the teaching with the statement that our critical Christian decision is to choose to overcome evil with good. The reason I'm sharing this is that Craig didn't come up with that teaching during his "devil spirits cause everything" reign. It was not original research done by him ... he stole it from Walter Cummins.

NC's current chief arse in this regard lives in the Asheville area and goes by the name J*m D**r ... specific enough?

The Head Table usually got better food and drinks when I was in-residence. What comes to mind is the utter audacity of the NC Limb Leader MVD who once came to our area and asked our loving Branch Coordinator, "Where are the mints?" To the Branch Leader's credit, MVD "somehow managed" to play a tape for us without having mints to munch on! Pretty lame, too, to make one visit a year and then play a tape rather than teach. What a maroon, what a loser! And yes, I would still say that to him because he is in a Geer spinoff...

I was 17 at the time and had been in TWI less than a year and lived in my hometown in western NC in the foothills of the mountains. I remember we had 24 hours of prayer for him and were told to picture him riding his bicycle around HQ ... quite a challenge for us, since we had never seen him or had never been to HQ! Later on in the Way, either at the ROA or while I was in-residence, I heard Pat Lynn tell her story of the "Incredible Healing of Howard Allen" or some such title. I really do believe it happened and with the intensity and detail she told. After his recovery, some of us went to eastern TN (Kingsport, I think) to hear Dr. Wierwille teach, and Howard was with him. VPW shared on the verses about God having mercy on Howard and on him "lest should have sorrow upon sorrow."

Word Wolf asked why VPW went to Geer rather than Luke Somerville when he started to expect death was near in 1985 ... could be that Luke was still just in his young teens....that was just three years after the "prophecy" in 1982, at which time Luke was about 10 or so.

Copenhagen, In partial answer to your question, Luke Somerville is the son of John and Mary Wierwille Somerville, 26 years older now than he was at the time of the "prophecy." In 1982, I believe he was a youngster under the age of 12...10 sticks out in my mind, but I don't know why. DogLover

In the Corps during 1982-83, I remember hearing the tapes from "A Day with the Wierwilles" -- and later hearing that Don Wierwille thought all of that about how Luke Somerville should be groomed to be the third president of the Way (move over, Rosie!) and about how the Wierwille family had to stand for the ministry to stand was "just Dad's opinion." I think he (and probably Karen and Mary also) knew it was a bunch of hooey. Just MHO.

I took the Advanced Class in 1973 at the Way International HQ, and at that time VPW played a tape for us of Oral Roberts at the height of his healing ministry ... what I remember of it was "If you bow, you'll burn; if you don't bow, you can't burn." It was about the record in Daniel of Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego. VPW made the statement afterward that Oral Roberts had a great healing ministry, but that he "sold out" to the Methodist church. (I am assuming he meant he gave up the traveling minister circuit to have Oral Roberts University, but I'm not sure how that ties in with the Methodist Church.)

This is a statement from a women's magazine I remember from some years back: Forgiving someone who wronged you is a favor you do for yourself. As long as you hold bitterness against a person (or organization, I add), they hold power over you. Certain people, in the Way and out, wronged me in incredibly hurtful ways ... but by forgiving them, I don't allow bitterness to rob me of the joys of today....I refuse to give them that kind of power over me. Do I think they were wrong? YES! Am I going to dwell on it to my hurt? To the best of my ability, no. IMHO, that's why Jesus Christ told us to forgive .. he knew what NOT forgiving would do to us because he held the standard of love for us and knew the heart of a Holy God. DogLover

I left, then Jim Do*r marked and avoided me to protect his dwindling flock from my talking to them. It was a case of anger on his part ... I "quit" and THEN he said, "You can't quit, you're fired." So immature .. spiritually and otherwise. As Bugs Bunny would say, "What a maroon!"

MStar1, I know this is off topic, but I find that bug of yours very annoying .. makes me want to swat him with something. If realism was the look you are going for, congratulations.

As an amusing (I hope) aside, I can share the following anecdote which took place at an after-meeting in early March during my interim year at HQ (1983-84). The interim and in-residence Corps (13 and 12 respectively) were meeting with Michael Fort and he was going over some announcements when he accidentally combined the former name (Uncle Harry Day) with the then-in-vogue name (Burn the Chaff Day), and you guessed it: he actually called it "Burn Uncle Harry Day." We were quite amused. I can't remember whether Michael (who was a good guy then) caught it or not. I miss the kind, sometimes mis-speaking Michael Fort of old ... I hear the newer version is not nearly so kind nor funny. Sigh.

There is a forum called FRIEND TRACKER where you need to put requests like this.

Most of all, I think that's a personal decision. If the wife wants to get rid of stuff, let her get rid of HER stuff. Your stuff is your stuff, plain and simple. When my sister's kids ended up with too much stuff they never played with, she talked to them about the joy of giving to those less fortunate, then let THEM pick out what toys they wanted to give to charity (Salvation Army, Goodwill, or our local charity, Christmas Cheer.) Then THEY had the joy of giving and sharing and it wasn't something forced upon them. Just MHO.

I am DogLover because....I love dogs! (My life is not very complicated these days, thanks to God and His Word and deliverance from the control of TWI).

Last I heard, JAL was still doing his prepare for the SAT vocabulary training..that was a month or so ago.

The origin of JALvis: One of the things John Ashton Lynn (JAL) often did for the Corps at Emporia during the yearly Staff Talent Show was to dress up like Elvis and lip-sync, billing himself as JALvis ... it was quite the sight ...quite amusing.

That one seems to have been removed from the Way Corps site, but it "doth appear" that someone has posted a group of family and friends singing "We're So Glad That You Were Born" to a lad turning 18 the next day ... that was sorta neat ....

I would suspect that come January, at the BOD meeting, that there will be changes on the Board. I don't "belong" to CES/STFI, but that's just what I have heard.

They have posted their contact information on John Richeson's Way Corps site at waycorps.ning.com ...

Just wondering ... what was it like when the Moynihans were in Europe? Were they well received? Details, UKers, details! Thanks.

What is shill witnessing?

Okay, I admit I fell for a commercial about these pads that remove toxins through your feet and went online and spent about $28 to get two months worth ... sounded like a good idea earlier this evening ... Now I'm wondering if there is anyone here who has ever used these things ... any knowledge of them?

I was in the 13th Corps and on my interim year at HQ, we were required to eat supper at the OSC ... and one night we had apple crisp for dinner with ice cream (actually, one night we had fondue, which was really neat) ... but the only other time I remember being served that dish at HQ was when I took the Advanced Class at HQ during the summer of 1973 ... eating in the basement of the old BRC. It was good, but I remember being very surprised they would serve that for supper ... but warm apple crisp with good Schwan's ice cream ...MMMMMM! Would have made a great dessert!